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Another NASCAR Debacle

Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by Roots Mon, Apr 26, 2010.

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  1. Roots Mon

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    #1 Roots Mon, Apr 26, 2010
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    Three green-white-checker situations. Now even NASCAR
    drivers complaining it's not racing.

    That's right guys, it's not racing. And, when pressed to
    answer if NASCAR is racing or a show the response is
    always 100% "show".

    But, let's hear it again right from the drivers themselves:

    “It’s just the way it works,” Newman said. “It’s unfortunate.
    I feel like nobody did anything wrong. But it’s just a product
    of what happens here. It’s not racing.

    “These shouldn’t be points races. If we want to have races
    for the fans, let’s come here and do that but don’t let it affect
    the championship. Because it’s not racing.”

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  2. GuyIncognito

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    Between Cup and Nationwide, how many cars got wadded up at Dega this weekend? 50?

    Even if it's not a plate race, this g/w/c nonsense needs to go. It's not exciting when it happens every week, and all it does is tear up equipment, put drivers in unnecessary danger, and make winning a race about the same as playing roulette....or maybe craps :)
     
  3. b-mak

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    NASCAR knows how to fit the show to a proper schedule--just see Grand Am Rolex.

    This green-white nonsense is rediculous.
     
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    It's not just g/w/c...the "lucky dog" rule, debris cautions with no debris, the "out of bounds" rule, all the hype over "taking the gloves off" this year for actually letting them race, plus all the crap about the COT and now the wing/spoiler switch. NASCAR has been pimpin' the sport way too hard for the last few years.

    they need to realize that sometimes a driver beats the field by 20 seconds, sometimes races go caution free, and sometimes ratings suck because people have other stuff to do.

    otherwise, if you just want to make a spectacle out of people getting hurt, have a tightrope gun duel deathmatch over a tank full of sharks and alligators.
     
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    Very true. Remember a few years ago when they were considering splitting the series into two?
     
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    #7 Roots Mon, Apr 26, 2010
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    Let's see how low things go before a driver(s) or spectator(s)
    become sacrificial lambs and NASCAR finally has a rethink.

    Interesting that Speed showed Australian V8 Supercars
    over the weekend. Genuine V8 fuel injected power and
    modified stock chassis which look exactly like their road
    going counterparts?

    What a concept and everything NASCAR should be with
    no "phantom" or "competition" cautions the moment the
    leader pulls out a two second lead or the lead pack dosent
    fit the narrative.

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    A whole bunch of empty seats at NASCAR lately; some sections @ Talladega were barren.

    Came across this Time article today: NASCAR: A Once Hot Sport Tries to Restart Its Engine

     
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    The fans are the ones that demanded races NOT end under caution. NASCAR is simply giving its target audience what they asked for..
     
  10. GuyIncognito

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    I'm a NASCAR fan, have been for 20+ years. I didn't mind races finishing under caution.
     
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    That's a great article, still it needs to go further.

    Dwindling TV ratings, empty seats at races, oh dear we had better find our own "Tiger Woods"!

    That's worked out well for the PGA right?

    How about this? Instead of borrowing from the business models of WWE, NFL and Ultimate Cage Fighting, why not create a genuine business model consisting of cars people may identify with featuring V8 fuel injected engines (like Australian V8 Supercars) and cut the nonsense with the endless Super Bowl-like hype (which no event may ever live up to) and return to racing roots with no "phantom yellows" and these crap-shoot "green-white-checker" finishes?

    Unfortunately, NASCAR has gone so far off the beam replacing "sport" with "show", it's become a shadow of it's former self and they've forgotten the number one rule of marketing; over exposure kills the product.

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    While the decreasing spectator numbers are easy to pin on the economy, the 25% drop in TV viewership should be very alarming. It sounds as if the g/w/c isn't universally popular, although I'm of the opinion that the fans who complained loudly about races ending under yellow have been appeased, only to have their protests replaced by those complaining about the current format. You'll never please everyone. Sounds like politics! But I think you have a case of over-saturation where NASCAR maybe reached beyond it's grasp, capturing a more transient fan base and risking the alienation of loyalists in the process. But this is what happens when the plan calls for world domination--you can only get so big without diluting the product in some way.

    With NASCAR, I fall under the heading of 'casual fan'. I watch Daytona religiously because I enjoy the spectacle of the event, plus my parents live there and I've been to the track. But to me, watching the 3-hour telecasts week in, week out isn't something I care to do, nor is it realistic if spending any quality time with my family on the weekends is important to me. As a racing fan I appreciate the difficulty of NASCAR racing, but a little bit goes a long way when they're pedaling around ovals every weekend. Plus I really dislike the COT and think it creates an even greater disconnect between the fans, the sport and what it once was. So I'll catch a few laps here and there, but I wouldn't expect NASCAR to spend much effort chasing after me as a fan.
     
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    Time to usher in "Danica Mania II"!

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