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ANY 1st Hand info on this Sbarro p4

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  1. P4Replica

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    Carbon.

    In reply to the second part of your question (I presume you were referring to the original 308GTS, rather than the Sbarro P4) ....

    Check this out: http://www.immo-agency.ch/SwissTeam/Voitures/Ferrari/Permis.jpg

    (as also uploaded here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137080398&postcount=4 )

    How does 23.07.79 sound ? Or is that the car's date of first registration ?
     
  2. msdesignltd

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    This is one long running Thread...
    I started it 4 years ago
     
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    Not with 4 sparkplugs on one side
     
  4. P4Replica

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    That eBay listing for the Sbarro Tipo P4 replica had been due to finish this evening:

    Ferrari : Ferrari (note the slightly amended title)
    Buy It Now price: US $257,600.00
    End time: 14-Nov-07 18:45:34 GMT

    I'd kept it on my eBay watching page, and the 'ending soon' automatic reminder email arrived in my inbox this afternoon.
    At that stage, there had been 4 offers made: 2 declined; 1 timed out, and another 'Pending'.
    So .... 10 minutes ago, I clicked on the eBay auction link .... and got this message:

    Invalid Item: This Listing Is Unavailable

    This listing (150175408977) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.

    If the listing was removed by eBay, consider it canceled. Note: Listings that have ended more than 90 days ago will no longer appear on eBay.

    That's unusual. eBay auction listings are usually visible (as history) for 90 days after an auction ends. Very strange ! :(
     
  5. P4Replica

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    Or maybe not. I just got a reply to an email I'd sent to the seller. :(
    Incredibly, on the 20th day of a 20-day listing, Ferrari's legal department acted to instruct eBay to remove the listing. Unbelievable !
    Perhaps some good news is that the seller claims he has received offers in excess of $100K for the car. Oh Yes, and 15,000+ views. :)
     
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    #56 P4Replica, Nov 16, 2007
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    I emailed the eBay seller, 'Christophe', and asked him if he'd mind sending me a CD of his original hi-res photos that he'd used in this and the previous eBay auction listings. He kindly obliged, and it arrived in today's post. There were over 50 hi-res images on the CD, mostly in 2592x1944 or 2784x1856 formats, with file sizes between 2.0MB and 3.7MB's each. If anybody wants any particular shots from the two sets of auction photos - or any others .... drop me a PM with your email address.

    Carbon.
    Before you ask .... Yes - there were other shots of the engine compartment, but I couldn't see any stampings on the motor. :(
    But I did manage to crop this rather better close-up of the 'fake' Ferrari chassis plate out of one of the other photos. :D
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    #57 P4Replica, Nov 16, 2007
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    This is the chassis plate that the car appeared to be carrying back in 1986 (presumably in the same location) ....

    Scanned from page 88 of Auto Motor und Sport issue N°10, May 1986 ....
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    #59 P4Replica, Dec 17, 2007
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    Here's a scan of an earlier photo of Franco Sbarro, with his progeny, kindly emailed me by Francis Muller ('GIOTTO'):
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    #60 P4Replica, Dec 17, 2007
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    Francis also kindly emailed me this scan of an advert from an old magazine, that he found.

    'Christophe Gaule', being the same person who has advertised the car for sale recently on eBay (on behalf of owner Albert Eggs).
    Looking at the asking price of (only) $100,000 in this old advert, I would suspect they have been trying to sell the car for 'a few' years.
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    #61 P4Replica, Dec 21, 2007
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    Well perhaps if you guys didn't keep emailing me all this good stuff .... :rolleyes:

    I'd already flagged this link to a previous advertisment by 'Swiss Team Salamin', in my post #4 on the first page:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137080398&postcount=4

    .... so when Francis Muller ('GIOTTO') kindly emailed me this (slightly different) link, this morning:

    http://www.swissteamsalamin.ch/ferrari/car_tech_ferrari.htm .... I was about to say: 'Nah - seen it before'. ;)

    But it isn't the same advert. It's another one. Many of the small 'library' images and scan of the registration document are the same ....
    .... but there are also 4 additional (again obviously 'library images') larger photos of the car - but for once, showing license plates fitted.

    Asking price is still the same €100,000 Euros, though ....
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