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  1. SoCal1

    SoCal1 F1 Veteran
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    It has to come out

    Try a harder piece of wood to maximize the impact.

    Bang lifter a few times to set the center part to start coming out
    Put in freezer a few hours to get cold
    warm the outter part of the lifter so the center stays cold then slap the crp out of that Beotch

    I would be using an airgun if it were me but I am working on those issues in therapy
     
  2. bobzdar

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    You can put it in a cup of oil and pump it a few times to get it to fill up again if you can't get it apart.

    Actually, try doing that in the Chem dip to fill it completely and dissolve whatever is gumming it up.
     
  3. bcwawright

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    This thread has not even touched on the rebuild process/procedure.....it has turned into nothing more than following some guy who is simply cleaning parts.
     
  4. ernie

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    Well then how about explaining the rebuild process then? Pics would be helpful too.
     
  5. bcwawright

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    Post #43
     
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    #81 ernie, Feb 13, 2015
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    Then why bring up that no one has explained how to "rebuild process/procedure" if you aren't going to help explain how?????
     
  7. phrogs

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    #82 phrogs, Feb 13, 2015
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    Or to get Dave to do his magic I have to send my car to him? That won't ever happen.

    Just another Ferrari secret.
     
  8. ernie

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    This may sound crazy but, maybe trying grabbing the tip with a pair of needle nose vice grips, then wiggling/pulling them out? The only thing is, can that be done without marring it?
     
  9. ernie

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    The secret is, it's not that big a deal. Once you know how the "magician" performs the "trick" it isn't all that impressive anymore. Thing is the "magician" doesn't like to reveal how the trick is done, because then they can't fool you anymore. Nor would you pay $2600 for a "show ticket". ;)
     
  10. WATSON

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    Bruce, I love ya like a brother...but...

    Post 43 doesn't tell us a whole lot. Not enough for me to jump up and write a $2600 check anyway.

    I am doing mine becuase they are staring me in the face and I have a week to kill until my headers get back. Is it a "rebuild" dunno...define it first.

    At the very least I have removed a small amount of built up goo, confirmed the springs are not broken, got a very close up view of any surface wear and loaded them with fresh oil.

    These are all numbered and will be dropped back in the appropriate slot upon return.

    If any of these showed any sign of wear, or nicking on the surface, I would be forced to replace them. Not sure how I would rebuild it....or if I would want to.

    I am good with what I am doing and will be fine going forward. If somehow that bothers you I apologize.
     
  11. SoCal1

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    #86 SoCal1, Feb 13, 2015
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    I understand there is a exact fit from VW thats being used. Much better and 100% state if art lifter. If I ever get off my fat ass to locate it is another story. I'm sure it will surface or someone will read this and "expose themselves" to us

    A little exposing is always a fun thing


    EDIT
    Google this and it will get you started on better lifters
    "28mm cam follower hydraulic"


    :)
     
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    The reference was not to you at all. I was commenting on the youtube video that was posted at the beginning of this thread. None of this bothers me...I just didn't want any owners to think that cleaning was synonymous with rebuilding.

    Sorry you took this as me slighting your efforts.
     
  14. cf355

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    interesting
     
  15. SoCal1

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    Not taken at all as a slight. We do need to start coming up with a true rebuilding for lifters that have overheated in the bores and are failed beyond cleaning.

    Or a replacement made by one of the cam companies that can get an improved wall thickness and top that will work with our crazy cams.


    :)
     
  16. WATSON

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    No worries. I would be interested to know what happens for a rebuild that doesn't happen during a cleaning. There is just not a lot here. New springs?

    Are there new or re-engineered parts that are being used perhaps?
     
  17. SoCal1

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    #92 SoCal1, Feb 13, 2015
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    There is lots going on besides how simple they look at first glance

    Here are some internals with different walls for different solutions, more hp mo better meat meat burgers lifters
    This is what may have failed and why you cant get them apart
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  18. GerryD

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    #93 GerryD, Feb 24, 2015
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    Did you get the replacement VW lifter yet? If you did, how is the sizing.lol As for the stuck one, soak it in ATF fluid. Use a 9mm socket and vise grips to pump the ATF through it. Then after it has soaked plug one hole and blow through the other with compressed air. Its a lot easier doing this while the lifter is in a vise.
     
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  20. WATSON

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    hahahahahahahaha

    Deep breath

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

    I have no idea. Personally, that was my absolute last option....and even then I don't think I could bring my self to try it.

    I sent my offending lifter out for repair. Anxiously waiting on its return.
     
  21. GerryD

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    Just wanted to see if anyone has ever gotten a good result or found a cross over for new lifters.
     
  22. plugzit

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  23. Markphd

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    I rebuilt mine, and seriously, it was not that hard except for a few that really needed the ***** beat out of them in order to get the internals to let go... All went reasonably well and there are some tricks (heating and cooling them) to get them to cooperate.
     
  24. LorenzoR

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    So when u rebuilt them what do you mean. Did you just take apart and clean or did you replace parts
     
  25. Markphd

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    Yes, all the components were still serviceable and didn't need replacement. So I guess that more accurately you could say I disassembled, cleaned, inspected, and reassembled the lifters. They all had good springs and went back together with no drama.

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