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  1. RayJohns

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    Aren't the pistons supposed to be installed with the arrows pointing towards the front?





    Just kidding... that joke was only meant to help increase Rifledriver's blood pressure :)

    Ray
     
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  2. moysiuan

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    The fellow drove 900 miles from when the sound first presented, til when it was heard again. I doubt starting it up is going to gernade the engine at this point, but I suppose anything is possible.

    The car needs a careful inspection to see if there is something loose, visible signs of a bearing failure, water pump failing, that sort of thing. Something was probably missed on reassembly after the belt change.

    I am indeed only an advanced amateur against some impressive experts on this board. But I find it odd that everyone seems to jump right into an engine rebuild, when what the op described is no where near enough information to make that leap. An intermittent scraping noise separated by 900 miles, after a belt change, suggests something less dramatic is afoot here.
     
  3. RayJohns

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    Hard to know exactly what "metal scraping noise" means. Maybe a ring broke and it's currently working its way north towards the chamber :) You just never know.

    It will be interesting to hear what the problem and solution to all this ultimately are.

    Ray
     
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  4. 12659

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    Try Harold's in Portland, they have an experienced tech with Ferrari experience.
     
  5. RayJohns

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    All joking aside - and just to set the record straight - all I know about Rifledriver is that you'll have to go a long ways before you find someone who knows more about Ferraris than Brian Crall.

    Ray
     
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  6. GTHill

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    Maranello? :)
     
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  7. RayJohns

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    Don't count on it.

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    More information is needed. 6 pages of guessing.
     
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  9. RayJohns

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    I have an idea for a new YouTube channel...

    I re-assemble the motor on my Toyota pickup truck, then road trip to Texas and pickup Brian... then we live stream us driving to Portland to further investigate this Mondial situation. Brian and I live at the OP's house for a few days, while Brian figures out what is actually wrong here.

    Ray
     
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    Love story or horror? Personally I only see person coming out of that alive.. 
     
  11. RayJohns

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    If I'm not mistaken, I believe both Brian and I are some level of hobby gunsmiths also :)

    Should be fine

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  12. tbakowsky

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    Great..John Wyane and Clint Eastwood in the same car...
     
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  13. RayJohns

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    That's why people subscribe on YouTube... to see what happens next.

    Ray
     
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    My 22641 came from Portand OR..

    There is/was a long time Alfa Romeo shop, whose owner knew his way around Ferraris as well.

    The old man died, famously about five years ago.
    I have no idea of the shop surivived or remains to this day?

    If Ed Hodel is still in the phone book, and alive himself, he could tell you..
    HTH

    If a Ferrari throws a rod your driveway looks like the Exxon Valdez, so "that's not it"...
    Maybe the name Ron Tonkin rings a bell......
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    An Fchat tradition.
     
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    You did not say what sort of operations you could do on your own. Compression test is rhe bare minimum, then removing the cam covers in order to review the timing marks. An oil analysis would also help. All these are fairly basic tests.

    If you do not feel confident, a local mechanic could assist you to perform these tests.
     
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    As much as you are joking, I would bet that would attract millions of viewers!
     
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  20. RayJohns

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    No, definitely not a love story lol.

    I wonder how it's going in Oregon with the V8? Any word from the OP?

    Ray
     
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    Hi Ray,
    This post did give me some valuable insights and some contacts to reach out to. I posted this after having some serious health issues so my ability to do anything like a compression test is still a few weeks away, i'm literally back for the dead.
    I do have a lot of respect for some of the posters (members like rifleman) and I am hopeful I can get this car to a proper shop soon. I'm at the point now of reaching out to contacts. I understand a lot of places are full up with work and some don't even return calls so I think thats an issue too.
     
  22. Rifledriver

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    If it were not for looking after regular clients I would just ignore the phone for about the next year and a half. Anyone any good is in about the same situation. If you find someone eager to get you in right away you are in the wrong place.
     
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    Very true and very sad

    In the 60s and 70s everyone was eager to learn a trade ..these days unfortunately the young looking for fast easy money

    Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
     
  24. RayJohns

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    Hope you are feeling back to 100% soon.

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  25. RedNeck

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    That mechanic sounds like a complete scam artist who just didn't want to deal with you or your car anymore. I don't know anything more than anyone else in this thread, but it seems pretty suspicious to me that after he fixed the "scraping" sound the first time (a sound not usually associated with a blown rod as much as a knocking sound), he now says is catastrophic. Sounds like someone needs to properly diagnose this thing as it could just be an accessory bearing or something rubbing against a belt (that he moved out of the way then came loose again that may require another engine-out on his dime).
     
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