Any F12 owners here with a McLaren 650S??

Actually I'm thinking 570gts over f12 and pocket difference. Incredible looks and specs.

 

I drove a 650 before purchasing my 430 spider and my impression was that it was fast and had a bespoke feel but in a way it was a bit to measured in the way it drove. I'm sure that a short test drive doesn't begin to show all the cars abilities but nonetheless that was my impression. I was overall very impressed with the car but for a weekend toy the 430 seemed more than enough for me. Enjoy it in good health. I realize I didn't answer the question asked but I wanted to share my experience. Btw good move keeping the 550 it's a modern classic.

 

Yes Wolf, you are crazy!


What do you expect from such a car? IMO the F12 is todays most powerful and most entertaining GT, very different to a McLaren 650S and also very different to your Maranello. With these three cars in your Garage I really don't see a reason to be bored with one of them, a perfect car fleet. Therefore go for it.

And if you will be bored with the F12 maybe try another sport, for example this:
(filmed in front of my door)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqh-mF-Es-Q[/ame]

 

The MP4-12C and its successors are arguably one of the best bang for buck deals on exotics when you factor in their insane depreciation in the first few years.

 

I have both and they are completely different. Love my 650S and all that McLaren is. But equally the F12 is the ultimate GT and is not too bad in the twisties.

I say do it

 

You should buy the F12...I have owned both and they are terrific cars and very complimentary...you will never feel like having one too many...The F12 is a hot rod, unbelievable power, noise, pedigree and surprisingly nimble, the 650 is a surgical tool, cold to the touch, but engineered like nothing else with incredible attention to detail, terrific handling and feels like it was made for you.

 

It all depends what you expect from your new car. If you want refined beast F12 is way to go. If you want visceral, raw and completely different beast than anything you had so far, take 360 Challenge Stradale

[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWNNmfWspQ4[/ame]

 

I would strongly advise you to try F12 Berlinetta multiple times before you buy it, because your expectations are seriously high.

F12 TDF is car for you, but that is one expensive candy.

 

Sell everything and buy a 599 GTO or f12 tdf and an f40.

 

Wolf, everything is clear, you are defintelly crazy, try the base jumping.

 

Something tells me you will like the F12 but I also think you should try it first if possible. I don't own the McLarens so its hard to advise from that stand point. My gut reaction to some of your comments is maybe you should sell the others and get the 675LT. Thats like everything you want (mega speed+refinement) wrapped into one thing.

 

My friend has a 650s and yes it is very fast.

The F12 is definitely more exciting than the 599 by the engine noise alone. If you can get one at MSRP or under it's worth it, don't overpay.

 

If you're looking for all out speed the 650s will be the winner. It has better traction and better top end vs the F12.

In the curves the 650s will leave the F12 behind unless you drive the F12 like a maniac.

The F12 sound will blow you away, the comfort and the design will be not far behind.

I think the F12 compliments the 650s nicely. You get the best of both worlds with that combo.

 

I drove a 12C about 25,000 miles, and replaced it with an F12 which now has 6,000 miles. I agree with rm248 on the differences between the cars. Bottom line, the McL's are terrific sports cars, and the F12 is a world class GT. Each pushes toward the others' strengths, but is limited by the inherent tradeoffs of their respective format.

And yes, the sound of the F12 is intoxicating, and is unmatched by anything I have ever driven.

 

That is what I did

 

From what I understand it has the mega speed but not refinement-think Speciale?

 

I don't know... perhaps a fact finding field trip is in order!

I just was thinking the McLaren hydraulic suspension is so impressive at providing sedan levels of ride quality but also keeping the car well planted and though they increased the sport factor for the 675, the reports are all that its still a fairly comfortable car when you want...

I would go with the F12 because thats me, but just thinking about other possibilities...

 

I understand it is not the suspension which is superbly McLaren, it is the stripped out nature which makes it a tiring, but exhilarating, drive.

 

Very good point. No argument here. It seems the F12 is more the iron fist in the velvet glove...

 

This photo collage could help you what you should pick



http://s31.postimg.org/qyetpw997/supercar_drivers.jpg

 

I've had an F12 for almost 6 months now and recently strongly considered a 650s spider to accompany it, but got a 458 spider instead. The McLaren is fast no doubt, but it's a completely different experience compared to the F12. The F12 being a gt car will also have the refinement that you're used to in the 650, but will come with that amazing v12. I don't think you'll find the F12 boring if you found the 599 boring, but you should definitely go test one out.