Any F430 owners have their exhaust manifolds go bad?

Discussion in '360/430' started by kjb374, Jun 30, 2008.

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  1. kjb374

    kjb374 Rookie

    Nov 20, 2005
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    So I go to the dealer to have my trans bushing replaced on my 2007 F430 and by complete surprise I was told that one of my exhaust manifolds were leaking. So Ferrari has decided to replace both. Looked up the cost of EACH and WOW $5,100 plus gaskets and labour! Thank goodness for the warranty! Anybody else have this problem? Best Regards!
     
  2. The Ape

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    Yep, it happened to me as well. Mine was also done under Warranty.
     
  3. kjb374

    kjb374 Rookie

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    Do the new ones look any different and have you noticed any differences in power?
     
  4. RonnieF430Spider

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    Ferrari has had a manifold problem on the 430 since inception to the present. The dealers just received a bulletin from FNA stating that there is a new supplier o manifols and all manifolds to be replaced from now on will come from the new supplier (new design). If only one manifold is bad, both will b replaced. This has been the biggest problem by far for Ferrari with the 430.
     
  5. TimF40

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    Just curious, what symptoms did you have for you trans bushing that required replacement?

    Also, did you have any symptoms for the bad manifold? e.g., pronounced ticking sounds, etc...

    Thanks! - Tim
     
  6. kjb374

    kjb374 Rookie

    Nov 20, 2005
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    HiTim:

    I did hear some strange noises but actually thought nothing of it because they were so subtle. When I received the bulliten from my dealer that the bushings needed to be replaced, I took it in. The tech showed me the old bushing and it was torn to shreads! The new bushing I was told is the SAME as the old one. Go figure. With regard to the manifolds, I personally didn't hear anything irregular. I guess from what the tech stated, that the exhaust sound slowly gets louder and louder. That being said, you should take your car in to have the new bushing and exhaust if it's needed.

    Best to you!
     
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  8. JOEA2

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    During routine service, they noticed that the flange was cracked and replaced both manifolds.
     
  9. kjb374

    kjb374 Rookie

    Nov 20, 2005
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    Pretty much. The tech noticed a different exhaust note and pulled the manifolds. The problem lies inside the area that is covered by the insulative metal shieldinig and not on the areas that actually bold up to the head. I guess to see the problem, one would have to remove the metal shielding.
     
  10. PCH

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    If you wait until you hear an usual noise it could be too late. The Gear Box Mounting Bushing is factory campaign #280. which effects the F430 Coupe and Spider's from the start of production up to and including assembly #74429.
     
  11. Joe 575

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    My right outboard exhaust tip broke off at the hanger and in the repair process discovered manifold was cracked so both were replaced under warranty.
     
  12. shawsan

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    The DEFINING problem on the 355 was the exhaust manifolds; virtually every owner I knew (including myself) had to replace one or both. No such problem on my 360 or CS, or others I know of. So why is this same kind of problem cropping up on the 430. What's going on in that engine that cracks them.
     
  13. Ferrari_Michael

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    I had this on two of my F430 in the past (none of the newer ones). One was just really really noisy on a cold start, once they warmed up they were OK, the second I didnt even notice, the car was having F1 issues, E-Diff light, the little red gearbox light, the works, and they mentioned the manifolds needed doing aswell. Warranty has covered all issues in my F430's so far the warranty always seems to take care, very comprehensive, always seem reasonable when it comes to sharing the costs aswell, I remember my de-mister suddenly stopped working and I bounced off a kerb, no real damage but buckled a wheel and popped a tyre. Fair enough Ferrari response was I should have stopped driving, which I should have, but they offered to cover the cost of the wheel, labour and recoverey if I paid for the tyre, aswell as fixing the de-mister issue.
    I never have the cars long so they cost me very little, although if I did have one a while a Power Warranty would DEFINATLY be worth it!!! Shame its not avalible on the Enzos.

    Best
    Michael J
     
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  15. racerdj

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    No problem here yet.
     
  16. JoeT

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    Just recieved my 07 F430 F1 back from the dealer yesterday for the second time, they replaced the Gear Box Mounting Bushings (the first visit) but could not replace the left side Exhaust Tips that were rattling because the new "third generation" Tips (part # 231543 which replaces # 240829) according to my dealer were on back order from Italy? I then received an email from FNA asking about my service and I informed them about the back ordered part and that I was not a happy camper because I was not going to drive the car with a rattle. The next day I received a call from my dealer who picked my car up and temporarily tap welded the tips so that they would not rattle until the new part came in. Anyone else experience this? What about the right side tips?
    JT
     
  17. MARIOF430

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    I was told that mine (both sides) were starting to show signs of faliure and at the end of summer when it goes in for new fluids they will recheck the manifolds and most likely replace them!
     
  18. Shark01

    Shark01 F1 Rookie

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    No, the DEFINING problem on the 355 was and are valve guides made of inferior metal.
     
  19. wheredidtheygo

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    yes was replaced no charge to me.. Same sound as when the 355 did it..
     
  20. mrpcar

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    well, it was the exhaust manifold too. Well, it was both intake, exhaust manifold and valve guides that were the 3 known problems areas with the 355.
     
  21. $$$=SPEED

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    My 06 spider had them replaced at 4,000 miles and a buddy of mine has had his done 2 or 3 times on his 05 coupe.
     
  22. f355spider

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    Is Ferrari still using Ansa as the oem supplier? After the 355 problems with not only the exhaust manifolds, but the poor quality cats (also made by Ansa), Ansa should have gotten a giant kick in the rear as they were shown the door.
    ;)

    I'm sure Tubi, Capristo or one of the many other quality suppliers out there would have happily taken their place.
     
  23. photonut

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    i was told my manifolds needed replacing when i had my bushing replaced as well!!! Exactly the same story! i never noticed a problem with the exhaust. had 7,000 miles on my '05 430. repair was done free, vehicle was still under warranty.
     
  24. TFord

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    Jul 8, 2008
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    My manifolds were also replaced under warranty. Another gotcha to be wary of is the clutch. If your clutch starts slipping or not shifting at all with paddle shifters, and/or reverse doesn't engage, take your car in immediately, it's a software glitch and if you don't get it fixed immediately, you'll fry the clutch shortly thereafter and it isn't covered under warranty. I learned the hard way (i.e. $8K later). My buddy had the exact same issue, but got his fixed in time.
     
  25. mjw599

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    Weren't the clutch and bearing problematic too?
     
  26. rossocorsa

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    On the GT2 430's the manifolds which are manufactured by tubi are lifed at 5000 km's.....
     

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