Any of you have this problem

$400K for a California? That's crazy.

 

not a california at all.

 

Is Todd a friend of yours?

The complaints about Ferrari paint quality are an old story and there are a lot of threads here about cosmetic delivery issues. I'm sure customers would be happier if it didn't happen, but it doesn't appear to be an FNA priority to resolve.

 

Not a California......LOL!

The Factory paints roboically now, as I understand it, probably better results that the old days........


*shrugs shoulders*


Some people just drive them........

 

I would have let the stealer take care of that and not taken in until the thing was restored perfectly. I wonder how much of that was caused by the air freight process? If it left the factory exactly like that they've got some serious QC issues. Luckily all of that stuff can be machined out and that detailer guy is just trying to make a big stink and get his name out there.

 

Ferrari has been putting out **** paintjobs on their new cars for a while now.

 

I hardly think that you can say that its from the air freight (maybe some what, but many other Ferarris that weren't airfreighted are the same way). To say that hes just trying to get his name out there is just plain disrespectful, guys like me love detailing cars and love his posts, he was a well known detailer before the Ferrari shop took him on,. I am a follower of his threads on Autopia and there have been more F cars that have had scratches, holograms, swirls, pigtails, polish left in panel gaps, and even brush fibers from automatic car wash brushes caught in the emblems than i could count on my hands and feet. I personally have noticed it on a handful of new Ferraris as well. This is a serious problem that needs to be addressed, I know that some people don't care that the paint finish is 100% perfect but there are people like me who are completely anal about it. And to spend that much money and get a car in that condition is just a slap in the face. Yes it can be corrected with a machine and someone who knows what they are doing but the fact remains that it shouldn't be necessary in the first place.

 

If you are anal, you should really drive a Porsche......seriously........

 

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This car is in a current thread in the 599 forum and the owner was not grumping about the paint, just wanted his own guys to detail the car. Quite a bit of chest beating going on by the detailer.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

Bert- The owner confirmed the car needed extensive paint correction. I was wrong.

Taz
Terry Phillips

 

I watched a documentry on the higher end Corvettes and they do a heck of a job on those paint jobs. I think Ferraris are supposed to leak oil and have bad paint, that is what makes each one unique. No two have exactly the same flaws. Lexus make a nice car, corvette, any of the germans probably do a heck of a job. It's Italian

 

I'm pretty sure the detailer in that thread on Autopia is not Todd Helme. I think his Autopia name is different.

 

The Ferrari paint facility is top notch, I have seen it with my own eyes and I have looked closely at the Ferrari and Maserati bodies that are sprayed in that facility, it is world class and so are the results.

So here is what happens. When the bodies are ready to come out of the paint facility, they are fastened to a cart with rollers (casters) and pushed across the road to the assembly area. If there are no available assembly platforms (stations), the car body sits outside. If it's raining, it still sits outside and is covered with a piece of plastic. If that plastic blows away, they put some tape on it to hold it down. There are a lot of things that touch the finish from the time it's painted until the time it's completed. Inside the factory is pristine but for the most part, the buildings do not connect in an automated manner.

The car in the thread is mine and I'm not upset with the dealer nor FNA. In fact, this car bypassed the FNA prep process because I had it flown from Italy. The paint can be corrected and I don't permit the dealer to wash, wax or prep my cars. I take them raw and then have my detailer do his thing. There are tradeoffs when owning a Ferrari and this is one of them. If it happened to a new Lexus I would be upset. Double standard? You bet.

 

Excellent post. Thanks!

 

Great post!

 

I agree

 

but i always look at pick up when buying on ebay

 

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You think DaVinci didn't just say f*** it every now and then?

Drive it.


_J

 

If you're not too hung up on it why is your dealer guy trying to make a stink out of it and pretend he's the savior?