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Any one know of a dealer who has a a shorter wait list for 430?

Discussion in '360/430' started by horsmanp, May 2, 2005.

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  1. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    I called Scottsdale today, they said 5+ years, anyone know of a shorter wait?
     
  2. Modenafan

    Modenafan F1 World Champ
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    I called dealers across the U.S. and got the same answer.
     
  3. BWS550

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    CALL SEAN HARRIS AT STEVE HARRIS IMPORTS , UTAH

    TELL HIM I SENT YA...ONE OF THE HONEST FNA DEALERS AROUND

    BRUCE
     
  4. Modenafan

    Modenafan F1 World Champ
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    I called them last week, forgot who I spoke with, but he said he gets 10 calls a day asking the same question.
     
  5. BWS550

    BWS550 Wants to be a mod

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    HOW ABOUT NICK AT WWOC

    845 425 2600 ?????
     
  6. Modenafan

    Modenafan F1 World Champ
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    I know this is not my thread, but I'm dialing. Thanks.
     
  7. W00dEar

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    if anyone needs to ask this question, u aint getting on a list.
    dont take this the wrong way, i am not on the list. jsut dont want to see you guys wasting time and get all worked up.
     
  8. 4RE Bob

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    Ferrari of Ontario. They also supply upper NY state.
     
  9. lrattner

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    Come to any dealer with 300 large and you will have a car in less than a month
     
  10. Texas Forever

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    Okay, brief math lesson --

    Facts:

    1. There are about 33 Ferrari dealers in the USA.

    2. Each dealer will probably get between 6 and 12 F430s in 2005.

    3. The best case scenario is that each dealer will get double their 2005 allocation in 2006.

    Required:

    Figure out the probability of you getting a F430 at MSRP anytime in the near future, if you are not aready a FOD (Friend of the Dealer.)

    Dr "Class Dismissed" Who
     
  11. racerdj

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    Sad to say but very true.
     
  12. coolestkidever

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    Dont try algar
     
  13. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    FWIW, a guy from FoOC told me they've had about a dozen delivered so far. All flown in.
     
  14. matteo

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    FWIW,

    Authorized Ferrari Dealers will not sell new cars out of their market area.
     
  15. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    He told me to buy a 360 and get on the list for the 430 replacement... Maybe that will make you a FOD as you call it...

     
  16. SrfCity

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    So this means he makes some $$ off you when he sells you a 360. Then he'll want to get a fee when you consign the 360 for the 430(3 years down the road, maybe). IMO it's just better to wait for a preowned 430 or one that someone doesn't want. I think it ends up working out to be the same $$ outlay vs having to play the dealer game. I'd rather call my own shots but that's just me.

    I'd be surprised if he would commit to any time frame for a 430 after unloading a 360 on you. It's all a supply vs demand game.
     
  17. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    yeah probably at this stage the list is so far out its better to just buy used in a few years.

    What are peoples thoughts on the value of the 360's as more 430's become available? It seems like a lot of 360's are on the market right now, about 70 on ebay as of yesterday...
     
  18. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    This one has been discussed quite a bit. It's hard to say but I don't think the bottom will fall out. It's a hell of a car when you compare to the 430. Yea, the 430 is all that but is it another $100K to $175K better depending on year etc.? Probably not. So I think this will help to keep 360 prices relatively stable. Only time will tell.
     
  19. hardtop

    hardtop F1 World Champ

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    HorsemanP,
    Like it was said above, dealers can only sell in their geographis area, so if you cannot get on with a local dealer, you are out of luck.

    Can't speak for others, but I know Ferrari of Denver has stopped taking deposits and have moved on to the 430 replacement. I put a deposit down 9/02 for a coupe. I am told I should get one in the first 10. My situation is complicated some by the fact I am first for a stick shift, but they can't predict when the FNA gods will bequeath the first one. I am guessing if you want a 430, your chance to buy one at sticker is long gone. I'm sure there will be plenty available for a ransom, but they will already be titled and technically not new.

    Dave
     
  20. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    How much did you have to put down to get on that successor list? $5K?

    Also whats the target delivery 2009/2010?
     
  21. jim g

    jim g Formula Junior

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    If your farther then 100 miles from a dealer you have the choice of where to shop. If however your in a dealers radius you have to shop there on their list for a new F-Car. If your in the middle of no-where take your pick.
     
  22. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    The only problem is will the dealer want to sell to you? By that I mean if they can't necessarily service the vehicle or sell your current whatever and make some $$ then they may figure it's not worth it vs dealing with someone local. On something they can't off they'll sell it to you but on a "hot" car they probably won't. Supply/demand/$$ thing again.
     
  23. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    If you put ur name on a list, and put your $5K down, how can they not... I don't think they are going to flat out turn you down...
     
  24. SrfCity

    SrfCity F1 World Champ

    Just because you're on a list doesn't mean a lot. The list is a fluid thing that is dictated by what kind of customer you have been or maybe will be. Many people who were on a 360 list and that never quite made it to ordering a car were just dropped off for example and not placed in line for a 430. Your best chances are based on what kind of money they've made from you in the past and what they can make off of you in the future. That's why I think that your best bet is to just find a deal when the hype wears off a bit and forget about the games. Probably in another year or so. It's always worth a try to get on some list though as long as your expectations are not too high ;)
     
  25. horsmanp

    horsmanp Formula Junior

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    I was quoated $5K is that typical? Is this fully refundable if you dont get a car?
     

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