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Any one know of this twin turbo 308i?

Discussion in '308/328' started by First Ferrari, Sep 29, 2010.

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  1. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

    Jun 18, 2005
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    A good buddy of mine came across a 83 twin turbo for sale, VIN ZFFHA02B000041615. Appears to be repainted to the factory black, two tone grey interior, big (ugly) wing on back, front low spoiler.

    I know it's not much to go on, being sitting for 8-10 years in MN and currently is not running, we think it could be bought right we know what is keeping it from running and is a pretty easy fix, don't know what the rest looks like after it is running. Car was from Washington state at one time.

    Any history that anyone knows of would be great!
     
  2. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    Can't help with the history but.......twin turbo and standing for years don't sound like a simple fix to me!!
     
  3. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

    Jun 18, 2005
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    Christopher Reeves
    The car was running about a year ago, it appears a fuel pump is keeping it from runnning again. Once it is running is a different story, can tell what is needed until it is back making noise.
     
  4. Declan1

    Declan1 Karting

    Mar 15, 2007
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    Not sure as the vin numbers for 1983 QV are off, I thought 4th digit should be a L,R,U,M 6yh digit should be a 1, the B is a euro left hand drive, 041615 is pre QV production so someone with additional vin info can help.

    ZFF H A 02 B 000 041615

    First digit - Z = This digit identifies the country of origin. Italy was assigned the letter Z

    Second digit F = This digit identifies the marque (MARK) F for Ferrari, If Ferrari would have continued with the Dino nomenclature this digit would have been a D for Dino.

    Third digit F = This digit identifies the manufacturer. F is for Ferrari.

    Fourth digit L/R/U/M = This identifies the engine type. L = European 308 / R = Australian 308 / U = USA 308 1984-85 only / M = USA 308 1983 only

    Fifth digit A = This digit represents the restraint system. A = 3 point inertia belts with auto retractors for front seats only (two passenger car)

    Sixth & Seventh 12/13 = These numbers represent the body type or model, 12 for 308 GTB / 13 for 308 GTS.

    Eighth digit A/B/C/D/J/R/S/T/X = This digit identifies the market for which the car was built for. A = Left hand drive North America / B = Left hand drive European / C = Right had drive UK / D = Right hand drive Australia / J = Left hand drive Japan / R = Left hand drive Russia / S = Left hand drive Switzerland and/or Sweden / T = Middle East / X = One-off, prototype & competizione.

    Ninth digit 1-9 or X or A = USA check digit, this digit is calculated by adding the numerical value of each other position and then divided SEE FORMULA . The numerical remainder becomes the ninth digit unless the remainder is 10 and then the letter "X" is used. If not a USA car the ninth digit will always be a "0" except for Japan where it will sometimes be an "A" .

    Tenth digit D/E/F = This digit identifies the year and is only used for the USA and Middle Eastern market, all others will always be a "0" zero. "D" is for 1983 , "E" is for 1984 , "F" is for 1985 .

    Eleventh digit 0 = This digit identifies the assembly plant, since Ferrari only has one plant to produce cars which is in Maranello this digit will always be a "0" zero.

    Twelfth thru Seventeenth digits = These digits are the sequential production numbers assigned to its specific chassis and there are six positions, the 308 QV series started with chassis number 041701 and ended with number 059265
     
  5. SMS

    SMS F1 Veteran

    Jan 7, 2004
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    Does this car have round headlights in the grill in lieu of pop ups?
     
  6. Speedmade

    Speedmade Formula Junior
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  7. Maranelloborn

    Maranelloborn Karting

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    #7 Maranelloborn, Sep 30, 2010
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    Its not a GTO that some old lady thinks is a 308... is it? Now that could make headlines.... Ha!!! Clearly not....
     
  8. Sledge4.2

    Sledge4.2 F1 Rookie

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    I didnt konw they made a "Factory Black Twin Turbo". Oh wait its "Factory Black, Twin Turbo" :)
     
  9. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The "year" probably got messed up during importation. It's not a QV -- it has a 2V engine.
    The VIN decoder here ("Decoding the VIN" at the bottom of the "Articles" page):

    http://www.red-headed.com/index2.html

    shows that the "H" is correct in the 4th digit for a euro 308i-2V.
     
  10. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    Just the standard pop up headlights.
     
  11. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    That would be nice, but no GTO it's a car that someone graphed on some fiberglass boy racer things.
     
  12. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    So do you think it was a "grey market" type car? The seller is a brokerage type house and has little info on it, the title is a traditional title as far as we can see. Could it have been a car that was shipped over as a euro car? I always thought that the turbo's were 208's to minimize euro taxes.
     
  13. Steve Magnusson

    Steve Magnusson Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The turbo is an aftermarket add-on (not stock). The VIN indicates that it IS a euro version 308i-2V. Although the "title" looks OK, what's even more important IMO is having the proper DOT/EPA papers to show it was legally imported to the US.
     
  14. MBFerrari

    MBFerrari F1 Veteran

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    I (representing the "keep it stock" guys here on Fchat) am going to cry.

    MB
     
  15. blainewest

    blainewest Formula Junior

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    $45,000?! good one. LMAO.
     
  16. First Ferrari

    First Ferrari Formula Junior

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    I tried to keep a straight face when my friend offered 20K and they said ok. That offer had a good group of conditions. I love it a 25K discount......
     
  17. Declan1

    Declan1 Karting

    Mar 15, 2007
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    Thanks Steve for the vin info and red-headed link interesting site. Nice RED Wooden Shoes. So what year is on the title and rivited to the door jam as James List has it as an 84? "Not being the sharpest knife in the drawer", I was unaware that 2v's were still being used in 83, 84 production 308's. It does have the front and rear fender USA turn signals so hopefully as Steve pointed out DOT/EPA papers, are in order. Keep f-chat updated with progress, pictures and enjoy the ride.
     

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