I think the problem with pricing is the increasing rate of the Euro. What HS does is that they mark-to-market their inventory. So even if they bot the part back in 2001 when the Euro/SGD was lower, they will charge current prices since the Euro has appreciated 25% since then. The problem about sending the car "outside" to get it fixed or service is parts. My understanding is that HS will charge the outside workshop an extra 20% premium for parts taken from them. So u may save on labour but will still get whacked on parts. Alternative sources would be UK or some of the sponsors here on F-Chat. The problem of ordering parts from overseas is part numbers and guarantees. I was fortunate that when my Testa power window regulator didn't fit 100% (bot from Sodacom) , they took it back no questions asked. I think parts like badges and non-engine parts could be obtained from overseas sources.
By the way, does HS service self-imported Ferraris like the 360? Self-importing can save you a lot of money, HS makes profits of over 100k by selling one 360. So, why don't we self-import the 360 since there is international warranty -----> I think so.
A friend and I explored the idea a few years ago. There are a few reasons why it doesn't work: 1. Ferrari will not sell it to u directly. 2. If it was a used car, the LTA needs proof that u acutally owned the car for at least a year or two before they allow u to import it. 3. The regulations to import the car makes it very troublesome i.e. paperwork is about 1 inch thick, emission tests, etc.
Oh not forgetting the most important thing...u will be an outkast at ferrari functions...salesman like rudy will make sure everyone knows that your car is a a pvt import, and there will be frowns and snnigers...
I presume that we can import the car from a dealer overseas or get a quote from them and then purchase the Ferrari through them. By the way, if your Ferrari is a brand new, I think that there is no need to go through emissions test, etc., LTA will just approve the car. But it is not so good to hear from ultimo that self-importing a Ferrari would get you "ostracised" from Ferrari functions and Rudy, that salesman gives me a bad impression.....
As mentioned the problem is if u want to import the car on a personal basis u must have owned the car overseas for a period of time (1 or 2 years) before u qualify to bring the car in. U still need to get it tested for emission etc. The overseas dealer can help u do that. Back in the late 80s I wanted to bring back my BMW 5 series from the UK. The testing station was a good 200km away. U have to use a LTA authorised testing center.
Hi Lung, I have few friends that imported their cars into Singapore.There is no need for you to own the car for a period of time,unless you want some rax reduction.Example if you were a student and wanted to import your personal car. You can deff check it on this site. www.onemotoring.com.sg One of the guys with the nick "ULTIMO" sounds like a F360spider owner,and he also has a yellow Gallardo.Its just a guess,I might be wrong.
I think some parallel importers can help that as there are already quite a few parallel Ms, AMGs & Porsches. But is it worth it? Since pre-owned drop so much from new & they're seldom used. BTW, I've heard many clients complained that the normal 360s aren't exactly good for track & Porsches hold up better for reliabiltity. Eg. Brake. Many claimed that the standard 360 often had brake fade or even failed after few laps. Only the CS holds up better. Is it true?
U r rite...but if u were a student, u would have owned the car for a few years rite? or am I mistaken. Ultimo sounds like the person who does own a Silver 360 which was formally black. Not sure about the Lambo. But lets keep the mystery going...its more fun this way.
I thot Ultimo said he currently doesn't have any Ferrari's? I think both of you got the wrong guy... ! Anyone on this forum putting a deposit for the F430?
Please please...dun waste your time speculating.....i dun own any cars.. i just know people who do.... Anyway..Singapore is a small place, and to import your ferrari in...u will have fun but you will be playing alone. If you can live with that than thats fine. But if it were me, i was save the hassel and get from the agent...take the extra cost as paying for a country club membership..
360 problems are usually confined to the ECU and the clutch, the clutch being the major one as ..if you dun know how to "take care" of the f1 clutch...many peopl smoke the clutch or wear it out prematurely just by going up slopes or living on a hill.
Hello guys, This is my first posting! Actually I have been reading this thread for 2 months plus. Just enjoy you guys talking about F cars. I dun own any car and definately can't afford any car. But i do have lots of 1:24 scale F cars on my shelf.... And I do know the staffs at Hong Seh workshop. They are really nice ppl and I know they really do a good job. I have one question.... Is there a ferrari onwers club in Singapore??
I think you (3604u) had made a mistake, it should be mnm(username) who drives both a Ferrari 360 Spider and a Lamborghini Gallardo in Singapore. Go check the posts that this mnm had posted. You will be shocked! Lung, do you know this guy, mnm, in the Ferrari's owners club or met him during the track day recently? Boy, what does this man does for a living?
In my own opinion, buying cars to drive in Singapore is rather a stupid thing to do. As quoted by ultimo, we can buy collectible cars like the Enzo, Carrera GT, Pagani Zonda C12S and the Lamborghini Murcielago 40th Anniversary, just to name a few. In fact, the amount that we use to buy these exotic cars will not be wasted. In contrast, the value of the car would actually go up, depending on which limited edition car you buy. My choice would be the Enzo since the last few Enzos had left the factory and the market is beginning to dry up. We could actually make a profit by buying these exotics and sell them to potential buyers in the future, when the price goes up. I would rather save up a million or two to buy one of these supercars and drive a Nissan or Toyota in Singapore. There is a fine example, Tommie Goh owns an unregistered silver Pagani Zonda C12S in his car park. He just parks the car there (rich guy). There is also a Ferrari F50 parked inside his house. These cars actually appreciate instead of the opposite. What do you think of this idea? It may seem a bit far-fetched, but I want your opinions.
Hi Fred, I have to agree with you on your view, if you are talking about buying super cars in Singapore. You are talking in terms of commercial aspect. However, I am a person who dreads seeing super cars park in the garage for showcase. Quoting Enzo (The man) words, He hates to see his cars in the showcase. His cars belongs to the tracks. The Ferrari factory gallery was set up after his death, to showcase his cars. But many today would know that Enzo would disapprove it..... a bit of a history from me....
Fred (not Gizmoboy) You know, u just confirmed what my primary school teachers have been saying all those years - I am stupid...hahahaha. But seriously speaking...since I am in Singapore and do not live in Europe or the US, I have to "play" within my environment and within my budget. Its all relative isn't it? Yes, its an expensive "hobby". But I do get the satifaction and thrill of owning a few exotic cars - a "need" which gets filled during my lifetime. I told my wife many years ago that I don't want to get to 60 years old and say "I should have done this or I should have done that". Its like owning a watch. A simple Swatch still tells the time so do we need a Patek (bad example coz it keeps going up in value, just sold mine for a $5k profit after 4 years) or a more expensive branded watch for example. To some people, a Rolex is an expensive watch, to some its reasonable. Its all relative value. At the end of the day, I "play" with cars because: 1. I enjoy it and 2. I can afford it. 3. I always have a grin when I finish a KL/Spore trip in 2 hours. and 4...... not because I need it but because I want it. Just my thoughts....
Well, I am saying that it's a waste of money to buy a super car and shelved it for a profit in future. Definately, if you can afford one, by all means buy it, drive it and enjoy it to the max.... By the way, is there a Singapore Ferrari Owners club?? Or is there anywhere the owners usually hang out together??
Some pictures here for all of you to view. Owning the supercars in Singapore and driving a Ferrari/Lamboghini in town would be the best.
