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Any trick to re-installing the dampers? Suspension light issue

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  1. gobble

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    So my suspension was working fine and I sent the two rear dampers out to be rebuilt during the major I just finished. When I reinstalled them the suspension light came on. I've checked all the obvious things like the gears being in good shape, clean, turning freely and the actuators cycling when the key is turned on.

    Am I missing anything about how to hook these up on a fresh install? I've done some searching and am at a bit of a loss for what might be causing the light to be on.
     
  2. junglistluder

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    I think the suspension light comes on if you haven't moved the car in 3 starts. There may be a possibility that you just need to drive it.
     
  3. gobble

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    I just drove it maybe 5 miles. I was hoping that was the issue but don't think it is.
     
  4. 355rockit

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    Is your shock top gear damaged? Usually the shock top gear breaks and then damages the gears in the shock actuators (dampers). When mine went I replaced the gear only to find that the actuator internal gear was also damaged (suspension light still on). Replaced little gear on the shock and got actuator rebuilt and all is better than new. No suspension light.
     
  5. gobble

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    Nothing looks damaged. Does anyone know do the actuators have to be on the shocks for the system to check out? I guess what I'm asking is can I narrow it down to the actuators and connections and not the shocks themselves?
     
  6. Shootfighter65

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    Mine did this. Reset code and drive again. I call it the Mach 5 light lol.
     
  7. gobble

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    I can reset with an OBD tool?
     
  8. ClydeM

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    Every once in a while, my suspension indicator comes on.
    It frequently goes off at the next start
    sometimes it decides it wants to stay on for a couple days.
    Hey, it's Italian.


    My ABS/Brake light is similar.
     
  9. gobble

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    Does anyone know how far the gears on the shock turn stop-to-stop? The back ones only turn about 1/4 turn while the fronts don't seem to have a stop at all. I only pulled off the front driver's side and found the gear on top to be broken.
     
  10. plugzit

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    You found the problem. 1/4 turn is correct. Anything more indicates that the pin fixing the gear on the shock is probably broken.
     
  11. gobble

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    #11 gobble, Apr 18, 2015
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    I think you nailed it. Thanks. I was thinking it had to be a problem in the rear because that's what I sent for rebuild but the gear is busted in the front. When I went to remove the actuator it wasn't even seated properly on the shock. The gear is busted in the spot that creates the stop causing it to just freely spin.
     
  12. gobble

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    Problem solved!

    I had two actuators rebuilt plus fixed a broken gear and that didn't shut the light off. So what next?

    Each actuator goes through a distinct pattern when the key is turned on. The pattern is to find the stops. The pattern is longer when off the shock then when on the shock because it cuts short when it finds the stops when mounted. When not mounted it goes through the full sequence.

    I listened to each with a stethoscope while mounted and one sounded really weak. What was happening was that it had to be pushed down rather hard on one of the rebuilt shocks to make the snap ring click and that was causing the actuator to bind up and not cycle. I swapped one of the rebuilt actuators onto that shock and could hear that one run through the cycle. When the "weaker" one was moved to the front it fit a little looser and cycled just fine.

    So if you ever have a suspension light first check the gears on the shocks then check the functioning of the actuators. You should hear (can't see) each run through the starting sequence and find the stops. If it goes through a long sequence you may have a busted gear (because it never found the stops). If it goes through a short sequence it's ok. If it's hard to hear it may be binding up and not doing the self-test which will trigger the light.
     
  13. scrappin35

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    so have been doing a lot of searching on suspension light's and have seen both responses that you do have to reset and that you don't. Does anyone have a difinitive on this subject? I'm assuming I'll need the sd2 to reset. Gobble did you have to reset? your issue sounds similar to mine.
     
  14. Qavion

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    I understand your confusion. I've never needed the SD2 to reset the light (after broken gears and actuator replacements), nor have I had the light come on after starting the car 3 times without moving it. Perhaps there is different software in these computers or different combinations of faults which latches the fault light.
     
  15. scrappin35

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    yea see. I've seen the suspension light come on several times while working on it just for it to go away as soon as I start moving. Last month however it lit up and has stayed lit. So I'll be digging into that soon. My concern is if the warning light needs to be reset, I won't know until that's completed if I've resolved the actual issue.
     

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