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Any updates on when Rosso Portofino color will be fixed?

Discussion in 'California/Portofino' started by VHlambo580, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. KarlA69

    KarlA69 Karting

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    Please post a pic of Rosso Mugello Portofino if possible! I’ve always felt it was a little too dark and being non metallic doesn’t highlight the PF’s curves... but would love to see a pic!
     
  2. mlcor

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    Haven’t seen one, but my dealer has a Lusso in RM. Inside the dealership it looks darker (although I actually like it). I had them drive it outside into the sunlight, and it’s much brighter in natural light. But of course it doesn’t have the sparkle of the metallic colors up close. If the choice is that or losing the entire 2019 driving season here in the Midwest, I’ll take the non-metallic. Otherwise I might as well wait until the spring of 2020.


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  3. VHlambo580

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  4. KarlA69

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    For what it’s worth... I spoke to a Zurich based dealer today. He said production of Rosso Portofino cars pushed out three months, other colours currently being delivered. But he expected RP to come off production line starting early next week... fingers crossed!! If anyone else speaking to their dealer please ask.,. Would be good to get another few data points..!
     
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  5. KarlA69

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    Sorry I meant early next year (not next week... I wish!)
     
  6. Steve Bear

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    Any update on the Paint problem?
     
  7. KarlA69

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    I’ve seen a few pics of RP cars coming through on this site, but no update from my London based dealer yet

    Has anyone received a customer car in RP? Or had useful update from their dealer?
     
  8. mlcor

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    Spoke to mine last week, he said they had shut down the line for a week to do test samples. They are supposed to get back to me with an update this week but haven’t heard anything yet. They’re stuck in the middle, of course, between the factory and their customers (they have more than a dozen with this problem since it affects all models).


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  9. KarlA69

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    Interesting, thanks. Your mention of other models suggests it’s not just Rosso Portofino that’s affected but also other colours (other metallic colours? Non standard ones?)

    Did they say exactly what the issue is?

    I would have expected a lot more of Ferrari - they have had years to correct this issue ahead of Portofino production. Also, communication from them continues to be lousy.
     
  10. mlcor

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    I’m told it’s affecting all special paints and is the result of them switching paint suppliers. In fairness, if they haven’t got the problem sorted, there’s not much they can say...


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  11. azlin75

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    The issue appears to be directly related to the new low temp bake paint and special multi layers. Standard paints appear to be unaffected. According to what I read once the process is perfected you should be getting a better, and more durable finish then what has been delivered previously. Given the paint they are currently using is relatively new and a complely new process for Ferrari it’s understandable that growing pains will be encountered though not so easy to endure to the customer that placed down payment and spaced a car and was given a delivery date and not much else other then the cars are delayed.
     
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  12. tomc

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    Az...Do you have a link or links?
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  13. azlin75

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    No I don’t unfortunately, I also read an article about the paint process in a magazine recently while I was in the doctors office with my wife but I can’t for the life of me remember what magazine it was.

    And in general discussions with friends the subject came up and while none of them have any contacts with Ferrari, a couple of them own body shops and are familiar with the low bake paint process and stated multi layer low bake paint ( PPG I believe) isn’t super easy since the paint process is quite different. Apparently there will be a push to convert to this process since among many other reasons low bake temps cause a lower impact to the environment thru lower power consumption. Basically these guys know way more about paint then I really care about. But they did say finish is quite nice and looks much better on vehicles that have multiple construction component types such as steel and aluminum ( which today is becoming quite common) and other various materials such as carbon fiber and plastics.
     
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  14. KarlA69

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    Btw i think any repairs to this paint are going to be a nightmare... but that’s a problem for another day!
     
  15. mlcor

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    I wondered about that, too, and asked my dealer, who said that it shouldn't be a problem once they get it sorted. Of course, they ARE a dealer, so they would say that...
     
  16. Jay Pierce

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    VHlambo 580 is this your new Portofino in Rosso Portofino?
     
  17. VHlambo580

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    Hi Jay - No, this was just a RM color at my dealer. Mine is Stage 30 expected now in Feb. I had the RP color which would not be built for months due to paint issues. I switched my color to RM and it hit the production line right away.


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  18. mlcor

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    I am struggling with this decision, too, hoping to get more information next week. Here are two pictures of a RM that came into my dealer, that I posted on the other thread. Indoors or without sun, it looks darker, but outside in the sunshine it looks very close to Rosso Corsa.

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  19. VHlambo580

    VHlambo580 Karting

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    Mlcor - I am at the same dealer, LFSC. They are fantastic. Tyler is my salesperson who is just excellent. When I saw the RM color in person I knew it was a good choice, so I decided not to wait and go for the change. It is for sure a tough choice, but I just don’t have patience as I want to drive! I am very excited.


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  20. mlcor

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    Well, I’m going to wait a bit longer; frankly I don’t want to take delivery before March at the earliest, since I don’t plan to drive it when there’s snow/ice/salt on the roads.


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  21. mlcor

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    Well, got an email from my dealer today—Ferrari is still not saying when the problems will be fixed, and the dealer is recommending I switch to a standard color if I want the car by spring. I’m going to confirm with them tomorrow that this is true for all metallic colors, not just RP, and if so, I’m going to switch to Rosso Mugello like VHlambo580.
     
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  22. John Salvador

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    Rosso Mugello is a beautiful color, and it does not have the issues Rosso Portofino has.
     
  23. clockem

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    Will be interested to know what your dealer says if the problem is with all metallics or just RP. Thank you.
     
  24. Steve Bear

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    It is crazy to me how Ferrari has no idea how to fix the problem and the dealers have no idea what is going on.
     

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