Just the simplest of physic laws..... but yes, its amazing. Today MotoGP racing (even 250cc) is 500% more exciting than F1.... last F1 GP was damm boring... Regards, Alvaro.
Its all in the rubber. When its working it sticks like glue and you can tip them in like crazy but when its not working down you go as it slides away. At one point a couple of years ago, I had three of my mates all in plaster at the same time. They'd all bought WSB sports bikes that came with the same prod racing style tyre. After weeks of raving to me how great it was and how you could tip it in and over so far all three crashed inside one week. They weren't the only ones caught out either. After a certain number of heat cycles the wonderful tyres stopped sticking and simply broke away if you laid it over like you could yesterday.
We need to remember that the grip is relative. Even MotoGP bikes pull only about 1G around corners, compared to a F1 car of 4+G. M/C's get their performance from the fact they have lots more road to use AND they accelerate and brake like mad. Compare MotoGP lap times to F1 and the F1 car absolutely destroys them ... but yes agree with another poster that F1 is more boring than lawn bowls. This is a much better photo of a rider working very hard and demonstrating awesome skill: Pete Image Unavailable, Please Login
I recall my 'testicles' comment ... who among us would do this at this speed???? Or the F1 drivers... I've watched many such MC races and come back to the same conclusion... TESTICLES Wanna try? Jedi
I have done both. They both take a lot of skill (and sadly I don't have all that much - back of the pack on bikes, upper mid-pack in cars). The guys on motorcyles just operate with another set of circumstances by having to manipulate the machine with thier bodies unlike the guys in cars. Both take skills, but I would agree that the guys on two wheels have MUCH - M U C H bigger cajones and it takes more overall skill to race bikes.
Absolutely. But in another aspect, for the spectators, bikes are currently more fun than F1. Ok, bikes have more track space to slide, to brake, to accelerate and to overtake.... but, hope you all will be agree with me, today it's impossible to see in F1 four laps like Arnoux/Villeneuve in Dijon 79. Why? Regards, Alvaro.
same here, raced both bikes and cars. I've never felt like death was certain when racing cars (perhaps not going fast enough ), but when at race speed on a bike I'm always pretty sure I'm about to die.
+1. Ive driven/ridden lots of fast cars and bikes, fast cars don't scare me stupid like the bikes. and at least once a lap in a MotoGP race I stare slackjawed at the screen and think, "how the F*** did he just do that!?!". don't do that very often with car racing.
The gods no longer walk among us! Some of it is technology but there's so much emphasis on not making a mistake these days. Telemetry watches everything and how the driver interacts with it, to a degree that might allow an Alain Prost to come along now but a modern Keke Rosberg wouldn't last five minutes. They'd drop him for mismanaging his tyres.
I have only raced on 2 wheels. Did you see the driving at 11/10's thread? Oh- my car is sliding to much, I'm going slower (BFD) Ride at 11/10, and your ass is in the Tulips. Car guys have it too easy.
I never got into motorcycles, but I do think this is one of the coolest damn events in the world. http://www.iomtt.com/
I stopped racing in 90. I had a crash at Sears Point (now Infenion) that made me realize that I'd gotten over the hill, but the crash made me think about the consequences when riding, and frankly, that's the death of your being competitive. You can't be thinking about what happens if, you've just got to do it. That's me on the bottom. Did the IOM in 88. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Jay Leno's Jet Powered Motorcycle ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmgfF1zghg http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/photos/jetbike_shell.shtml?img=13 Jay was waiting at a light, and the car behind him got too close - The car's front bumper immediately melted. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
