Anyone else use nitrogen?

a great suggestion.

 

You do know that Air is 78% nitrogen anyways, right?

 

air is just fine for me. i do have dry air though (deliquescent dryer on my compressor, plus i use a "dessicant snake" to fill the air tank). in most parts of US and Europe, seasonal weather means you have to check and adjust tire pressure regularly anyway. (pressure goes up and down with temperature)

 

Use it in my motorhome, F cars, Mini, and off road cars. One reason, although not the main one, for the motorhome I run 120 psi in the tires. With a compressor, even two stage, I would spend approximately 45 minutes airing all 8 tires. With a Nitrogen bottle and regulator I'm done in 15 minutes. I always have 150 psi, or whatever I dial in at the regulator, at the air chuck output.

 

When they throw it away at work, but the bottles and the hassle and what not have me back to Gulf Coast Air....

It's about 75% humidity, at minimum! LOL!

It is indeed less likely to lose pressure over long periods.....

 

I use the "nitrogen-lite" stuff, 78% nitrogen, a lot cheaper.

 

This is too fun to let go.

Let's do a little mental exercise.

Suppose we believe the nitrogen does not leak out of the tire but "air" does.

Logically, it would be the oxygen in air that leaks out as the rest or the gasses in air are only about 1% or so.

So lets say you fill your tire with air. After a while, the inflation is down..,, the oxygen all leaked out. So you are at 78% volume since it is all nitrogen left. You now add air, but only the 22%. And of that only 22% is oxygen, or ~4%. so now you have a tire with 96% nitrogen and 4% oxygen. Rinse and repeat a couple of times and you are approaching 100% nitrogen.


guess what? It still loses air.

Like vitamin hawkers, people that say use nitrogen in street cars take a tidbit of science and distort it in such a way to fool the gullible and make money.

 

I'm taking my bottle back to the welding supply shop today to get my deposit back.

 

What about using helium? Wouldn't this make your car ***lighter*** ???

 

Nitrogen is a big waste of money in street tires. Most of the hype that the tire shops push is just BS. It isn't the air inside the tires that destroys the rubber.

If you have access to nitrogen for free it is a lot quieter out of the high-pressure cylinder than listening to the racket from a compressor but it is not worth paying extra for.

 

Helium is the second smallest molecule (next to hydrogen) and will leak out right through the tire.

 

I'm going to start marketing Radon as a tire filler. That biggo molecule won't lead out. Just wear yer lead undies.

 

Your killing me. My tummy hurts.


Where does this stuff come from anyway?

 

A lifetime of handling other people's "junk" probably has something to do with it.

 

We're so certain of the superiority of nitrogen, we offer it as a complimentary service to all of our customers.

 

That speaks volumes.

 

And I am sure that as long as your customers buy into that they will have a perceived value going to your shop. Good marketing! And good marketing is what nitrogen filled tires is all about.

 

Plus when the tires get low (wait a second, nitrogen wasn't supposed to leak??) they have to pay you to fill them back up, otherwise their could be nasty side effects if they try to fill their tires up with nitrogen AND regular air.

 

I use N in my ferrari and the wifes suv,always have,did you know thats whats in air planes thats how they get up in the air

 

I filled my tires with sand and haven't had to check the pressure since.

 

Owned 2 aircraft at seperate times - always had tube type tires and used nitrogen in them because of the inert nature of the gas - airport ramps, especially remote ones make it worth the effort.

 

Duh - it is the only thing to use on the track - and on all cars - tires loose pressure less and tire presure changes on the track not as much as standard air pressure as hey heat up, becuase they do not have water in them like H20 - it is the hot water that raises tire pressue

 

Well....since I am MrCryBabySmartyPants I suppose I'll have to point out you actually use N^2.

 

I feel the need for CAPS, but will remain an internet gentleman.

100% False. There is no ill side affects when mixing the 2.



Air is approximately 78 percent Nitrogen, that is true. So most Joe's who assume "hey, I'm intelligent and went through one of those Chemistry classes back in the day. Look at these fools paying for Nitrogen when compressed air is free, and it's 80% of the stuff anyways."

Now the main thing you do not want in a tire is moisture. There are also any airborne particles that the filtration element doesn't collect, and any oil/residue from the lubrication of the compressor pistons, but it is too miniscule to be relevant for the topic on hand. Most high-end automotive facility grade compressors have systems set up for moisture control, but are not 100% accurate and no matter what you'll still end up with moisture in the tire. The temperature and pressure increase and "subsequently decrease" are very closely proportional to the amount of moisture that is present in the tire. That's the only real thing it's good for, and any fuel mileage/ longevity of the tire/ bull**** gimmick, is just that.

For all those who do feel it means nothing, than please explain, why the United States Armed Forces have used nitrogen for all of the flight and most ground vehicles since the 80's, almost every single automotive manufacturer since before 07, any serious race team, ect. use it?

Also, I just read the other day in MTD that there is a bill being proposed in California (where a good majority of this forum is located) that is eventually going to force automotive facilities manadatory tire pressure checks every time the vehicle is in service. I thought that was already good business sense but continued to read on to the other part of that bill that is lobbying towards mandatory use of Nitrogen for inflation of tires. It appears you may forced to use it evenutally. Make your own decisions as I'm not trying to "shamwow sell" some nitrogen, just giving some knowledge that appears to be needed by some.