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Anyone ever changed their own oil on a 355?

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  1. TTG

    TTG Formula 3

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    Here's the deal...I am due for an oil change and would like to do it myself with someone who has done it before...I have the lift and the oil drain unit in my garage so it should be easy...I did the oil changes on my 328 and it was cool to just tinker in the garage. I could read the manual but that's just a pain in the a$$ and something always goes wrong like draining the trans fluid instead, etc...

    Actually I just think it would be fun to have one of the guys or better yet a group of guys come over and just show me one time so I can do it here on out...afterwards we could go driving, play cards, eat paint chips or whatever.

    Weekday or weekend

    Anyone?

    Thanks!

    Todd
     
  2. notoboy

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    On the 355, just make sure to drain the oil out of both drain plugs, otherwise, you will only get half of the old oil out. It is difficult to explain where this is, but the owners manual should point out the location.

    If no one else, responds, I will draw a diagram for you and post it later this evening.

    This is not a difficult operation, but plan on getting messy, because if the car is even remotely warm, the oil from this secondary plug can spray all over the place when you remove the plug.

    David
     
  3. jakes-gto

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    If you run the car to put it on a lift, find something else to do and let it chill or get the "Valdez effect".
     
  4. ClydeM

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    I know some people extoll the virtues of Whale Oil, but I've found my 308 just likes Extra Virgin Olive Oil....20w50.

    It's an Italian thing. ;)
     
  5. scott63

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    Todd,

    This is freaking classic!!! You own a $130,000 car but you are going to change your own oil??? I'll tell you what..... I will pay for the oil change for you. I would hate to see you do something wrong and you fry your engine!!

    Scott
     
  6. TTG

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    I actually liked doing it myself on the 328...It is kinda like therapy...plus it makes feel like I have a clue about my car...plus it's such a friggin hassle dropping the car off, getting a ride back, etc...I could just raise the lift and take my time while watching tv and having a glass of wine or 2 or 6.

    I heard the 355 was a little more difficult than the 328 so that's why I wanted to have a little gathering...if someone shows me once in front of me I can just do it myself for the rest of my life.

    did you get the crotch rocket yet?


    Thanks for the responses guys.

    TTG
     
  7. scott63

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    The crotch rocket is here. I'm waiting for this friggin weather to get better. So far so good though, no crashes yet..... The wife is pissed but that's life....

    We need to do dinner soon!!
     
  8. Greg G

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    T - I dont have any 355 experience, but I have a b!tchin set of tools. Oh and I love paint chips too!
     
  9. Diablo

    Diablo Formula Junior

    After getting it up on the lift you will need to remove the undertray in front of the rear air dams.
    Phillips, 8mm nuts, and 4 allen screws.

    Now you will be able to access the 12mm allen drain plug and the 22MM bolt at the oil tank.

    Getting the filter off might be a bit tricky depending on what tools you have.
    The Official Ferrari oil filter cup is like $120.
    You might be able to use a strap wrench.

    Good Luck to you.
     
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  11. TTG

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    Thanks dude...this just confirms my point...someone that knows what they are doing needs to show me the first time:

    The 355 is one of the more difficult and easy to overfill cars Ferrari has produced when it comes to changing the oil. First the undertrays must be removed to access the drain plugs. There is a drain plug on the engine and one on the oil tank. Drain both of them and change the oil filter. We prefer to use the Filter supplied by Ferrari and because of the hydraulic valve lifters prefer to stay with the Shell Helix oil which has to be purchased from a Ferrari dealer. If you can find it from an outside supplier I would love to hear where. When filling the oil system add 8 litters of oil to the oil tank. The engine should be run 30 minutes before you get an accurate reading at the dipstick. If you find it slightly above the minimum line I would not add any more oil. The 355 has a very sensitive oil system and if the level is brought up to the full line the car will force some of the oil out creating a smoking situation. I would recommend because of the complexity of changing the 355 oil, seeing if whoever services your 355 would agree to work with you the first time.



    I appreciate the tips but I know myself...this will turn into a nightmare if I try this myself by just reading directions.
     
  12. BWS550

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    I WILL HELP YOU IF OZZIE AND THE BRIGHTON BEACH POLAR BEAR CLUB WILL BE THERE..

    BRUCE
     
  13. HUTCH91TR

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    Just don't offer to drive the 355 onto the lift.... :)









    J/K !!
     
  14. TTG

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    Dude, You know the drill...Slick shot, lube job, blues clues and the whole team will be there...you be da dog, yo.
     
  15. notoboy

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    Todd,
    I didn't post a diagram, because I couldn't find a good picture of where to locate the drain plug on the engine after removing the passenger-side undertray.

    I would agree with having someone show you where the stuff is on a lift before doing it yourself, because you have to reach up between the engine tray trusses to get at the engine drain plug - relatively easy once you know where to look.

    FYI, I like changing my oil on my other cars, but I leave the 355 and TR to the mechanic - almost every time without fail they get oil all over the place, between pulling plug/s or pulling the filter/s. Better it be someone else's garage floor and not my own.

    Best of luck.
    David
     
  16. TTG

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    Thanks Dave...now I'm really curious. We'll see...if I can't get anyone to show me how to do it I will just bring the car to the closest certified mechanic...or maybe I can talk him into coming over my house!
     
  17. ClydeM

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    Guys,
    Last year during one of our runs/visits....didn't one of the Ferrari houses mention they wanted us over to show us basic maintenance on our cars? Oil changes & such. Somebody offered & we never took them up on it. Anyone remember?
     
  18. TTG

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    Problem solved...Bryan Vignale of Independent Motor Works in Short Hills is coming over my house to show me the routine...Very cool if you ask me!

    Thanks guys.

    Todd
     
  19. BWS550

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    JUST MAKE SURE YOU DONT ASK HIM ABOUT HIS MARRIAGE...................
     
  20. TTG

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    ...too late :)
     
  21. ultgar

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    You can probably buy the same oil through Quaker State these days....see http://www.shellglobalsolutions.com/impact/pdfs/4_2004/news.pdf . SD
     
  22. TTG

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    Just an FYI....Bryan Vignale of Independent Motor Works is coming to my house this Wednesday after work to show me how to change my oil...If anyone is interested in coming over you are welcome...cocktails from the Gin Mill are also served!
     
  23. BWS550

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    TOOK HIM ALMOST 2 MONTHS TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE??

    HMMM, THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO UM...........
     
  24. TTG

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    3 weeks...actually...pretty darn good b/c an not here 1/2 the time
     
  25. ghost

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    Take lots of pics Todd!
     

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