Anyone have a first gear for a TR?

Ouch, sorry dude. Is that a drop forged part? The metal looks like my crescent wrench!

 

JB Weld.

 

I am sure this can't be done, or can it:

Can it be rewelded, and trued on a lathe, etc?

Barring that, hunt down a machine shop and see what it might cost to fabricate. I am sure it won't be cheap, but it probably won't be 15000$ either.

Sorry to see.

http://www.atlasgear.com/?OVRAW=custom%20machined%20transmission%20gears&OVKEY=transmission%20gears&OVMTC=advanced

Just found on the net - give them a call...

 

It cant be welded, it must be replaced. Im having a hard time feeling sorry for you when I see you have a 355 and a TR and playing the "I have no money" card. Just buy the gear and fix the car.

 

Apparently you are among the sort of people who think it useful to count other people's money. Worry about what you earn and not about what others earn. Worry about what you have and not about what others have.

Indeed, you have no information at your disposal as to the personal finances of the original poster. It could be that he spends all his money on cars and has no savings. It could be that he is richer than all of us combined. Either way, these are none of your business.

He simply asked for help regarding his first gear and noted, and noted wisely whether rich or poor, that he is reluctant to spend $20K to fix this problem.

 

Can't you buy an individual gear from Ferrari? I was looking on line there seems to be a lot of machine shops that claim to make gears- do a search on the net. One other suggestion- call ted rutland and see if you can speak to the guy that does his transmissions, That guy has to have a 1st gear kicking around in a parts bin somewhere.

 

Depends on the gearbox number.

Up to g'box 2578:
http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=194775

g' box 2579-3657:
http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=197916

g'box 3658-
http://www.ricambiamerica.com/product_info.php?products_id=199055

 

I am in the process of doing the exact repair on a BBi. Look very carefully at the main shaft. These gears usually break because they are shifting back and forth on the shaft weraing out the splines. When sufficient wear has taken place the gear tries to climb over the splines and cracks the gear. The only main shaft currently available is the "M" shaft. That shaft has different splines for the 4-5 shift hub. The M 4-5 hub is incompatible with the non M 4-5 gears so now all 4 of those require replacement as well.


None of the parts I have just mentioned are cheap.


P.S. Any BB or TR that has had drivers use them like they are in Miami Vice is headed for a repair like this.

 

Interesting Daniel...I suppose we all assumed it was no longer available!!! Wouldn't the Dealer know that the part is available? $1300 or so ain't cheap, but cheaper than fabricating it...much cheaper...

 

im sorry to here.

 

Sorry again for your misfortune David- You are a good guy and a commited Ferraristi and in need a financial break from this stuff. In reviewing previous threads on this subject , I am not convinced that you will need to spend 20k to do a proper repair-Brian could you give us a little more insight into this please, I thought that a gearbox rebuild could be done for under 10k, provided the diff is in good shape.

 

To R+R and rebuild a TR trans you will be at least 40 hours into it. Thats 4-5 grand. 1st gear we will call $1k, the main shaft we will call $1.8k or so. The other parts to make that new shaft fit will be at least 5 or 6 more. Clutch? There goes another couple of grand.

Sorry but the ante for this game is $15k and no one has drawn cards yet.

Pray to the Ferrari Gods that the shaft is good.

 

Since Ive been following this broken gear headache of his from the beginning and hearing his off-the-wall solutions one after the other like welding the gear on the shaft and doing without that functioning gear I can only assume he cant afford to fix it and is willing to completely bastardize the gearbox rather than fix it. If he has 2 ferraris and cant pay to fix this one then he shouldnt own two and whine for charity. There is nothing worse than someone like him begging on a public forum for cheap parts to fix the car he cant afford in the first place, boohooo....waaawaaaa. Only a moron would pay $20K to fix a broken gear, lol. Buy a used gearbox and sell the remaining parts, I would and the parts I needed would end up being free.

 

Here is the BB trans. Parts are still being rounded up.


I for got to mention bearings. A couple of them are special are are frightfully expensive.

Make sure your guy has done them before. There are quite a few things that need to be known that are not in any book or it will not live.
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I feel for ya brother. I just went through a complete tranny replacement on my TR. Did a parts swap with T. Rutland for a rebuilt 512M tranny (through FofCF). I seem to recall my 1st gear was OK.

 

The picture of the g'box is sexy. But, it's not as sexy as what sits in the upper right corner of the picture. What a tease.... and on a Friday night, no less.

 

Newman, it is good to know that there are folks like you here who are willing to break away from their postal service duties to help out a fellow Ferrari owner who finds himself in a jam. When faced with a $20,000.00 bill, it always feels good to be called a crying beggar and a moron to ease the pain. It is insightful posts like yours that just keeps bringing people back to this forum. We salute you, you oracle of Ferrari wisdom. Now it is time for you to take some time to sit back and relax, knowing that your job here is done.
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I may have what you are looking for. I have search through my boxs of parts that I save (why I have no idea..most of it just makes for really cool paper weights). The gear I have came out of an 88TR, but I think its chipped on 2 or 3 teeth. I'll post a pic if I can find it.

 

If the shoe fits....by the way maybe you should just give him your visa number and let him buy the parts he needs since you're such a great guy? I thought so...

 

Newman, I remember a thread you posted about your Bad Boxer Day http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136874. You related that you had a tight fit in your garage and when pulling out you scratched your bumper and then when you pulled back in due to the narrow opening and icy tires you broke off your mirror. Later in that same thread you indicated that you were thinking about repairing it with JB Weld. Nowhere in this thread did anyone say that you should not have a Boxer with such a tight fit or that you were a moron because you scratched your car pulling out of your own garage and/or because you broke off your mirror pulling into the garage on the same day. No one assumed that you can’t afford to fix your car because you wanted to attempt to repair it using JB Weld. Also no one said you were bastardizing the car by your suggestion of using JB Weld. What happened instead is that all you received was empathy for your situation. Ferrari owners are members of a small village. If you want to act like the Ferrari village idiot, that is your choice. It is too bad, as I know you have a lot of positive things to add to this forum.

 

That's a generous offer. You are a good guy! Kudos to you!

 

No big surprise here that the replacement shaft needs different parts. I'll bet there's a special bearing that's different as well (OEM Ferrari only, worldwide backorder).

At least it's not a Lotus, you might actually have something when it's done.