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Anyone having problems with the 296?

Discussion in '296' started by F8Max, Jun 14, 2023.

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  1. dustman

    dustman F1 World Champ
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  2. rsguy

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    #252 rsguy, Dec 9, 2024
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  3. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Wasn't clear which he meant - F355? F8? 812?

    But kind of hilarious that it went in to limp mode on him. I guess he can say he had the Real Owner's Experience.
     
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  4. stretchgeneral

    stretchgeneral Formula 3
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    My service manager at the dealership said they had 3 296's in for electrical issues. Said they need support from Italy to resolve and it is not easy to get an answer.,
     
  5. dustman

    dustman F1 World Champ
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    I rem when my SoCal dealer had three LaFerraris in at the same time for batteries. $$$
     
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  6. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
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    One sat here for almost a year in the back of the service center waiting for the large battery. At the time I couldn’t believe an owner would wait. I guess it’s more about appreciation than appreciating it.
     
  7. 488gtbmasergt

    488gtbmasergt Karting

    Oct 18, 2016
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    Mine is at the dealership for two months now waiting for Italy to send back some programmed chip back. Without it the car is useless... :rolleyes:
    Unhappy for sure but not upset as it is winter here...

    And also a neighbor had a 296GTS with lots of electrical failures (including the roof system mechanism) and ended up selling it after a year of it ownership and 6 months at the dealership (no appreciation and no appreciating)
     
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  8. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

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    Ferrari has been rife with battery issues. Is it a surprise that their initial hybrids would encounter severe electrical breakdowns?
     
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  9. Coincid

    Coincid F1 Rookie

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    296 owners should prepare for issues.
     
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  10. Gh21631

    Gh21631 F1 Veteran
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    To be fair, it's the same with all these super car hybrids.
     
  11. RoyalPink

    RoyalPink Formula 3
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    Reminds me a lot of Windows 95. Going to take years to get this tech sorted and working properly.
     
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  12. willcrook

    willcrook F1 Rookie
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    if your car is waiting for a full year in the service department then it prevents you from selling it? so you're taking a 100k hit and can't do anything about it or even drive the thing - that's the real scary part
     
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  13. Silver007

    Silver007 Karting

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    I have had my 2024 GTB 296 for 6 months with absolutely no issues. It's my first and only Ferrari and I absolutely love it. It's truly spectacular to drive - including the hybrid system that kicks in to give the car un-ending constant almost breakneck acceleration and the haptic controls that only take some initial patience to understand how they work! Don't let the few folks that have been having issues with the car override the experience of the overwhelming majority of those who have had no issues. Let's keep some perspective!
     
  14. LVP488

    LVP488 F1 Veteran

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    I guess that these new very complex cars actually do not have (statistically) more problems than the older simpler cars.
    The issue is that when a problem occurs, it's typically a lot more difficult to solve - which completely changes (for worse) the impact for the unfortunate victim.
    To some extent, the same trend also applies to mainstream cars.
     
  15. rsguy

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    Is anyone here with the new steering wheel experiencing any reliability issues?
    Was informed the new wheel is not retrofittable due to systemic upgrades to wiring and electricals…car has undergone a range of improvements in the process.
    Be interested to hear if these new builds are problem free.
     
  16. rsguy

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    Other mainstream manufacturers such as toyota etc use tech which doesn’t require the car to be plugged into power which indicates Ferrari is using outdated tech in their cars.
    I recall someone mentioning Ferrari should outsource their tech from these manufacturers instead of using customers as Guinea pigs - makes sense, couldn’t agree more.
    Using F1 as a most recent example, Ferrari is clearly trailing all others in the field who are not having these tech/battery related issues.
    I suspect arrogance and cost savings remain key drivers at Maranello keeping them and their customers stuck in the mud.
    Considering the incredibly cheap prices these other manufacturers are able to produce hybrid vehicles totally destroys any argument that Ferrari’s hefty price increases are justified due to the use of hybrid technology. Its all just blatant price gouging whilst inconveniencing high paying customers, now even effecting their own performance in F1 - truly quite ridiculous.
     
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  17. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

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    Insert the tool in the kit (more or less at an 60 degree angle leaning forward) into the access hole on the driver's side of the centerline of the rear engine cover and engage the fork? in the transaxle -- turn 90 degrees and it will engage neutral. NOT EASY
     
  18. KL runner

    KL runner Formula Junior

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    Ferrari source the batteries externally from Korea’s SK On for the 296. You can read about the supplier .
    The recent F1 penalty was they because they chose to change the battery and the race was critical . The Sainz car had no issues
     
  19. x z8

    x z8 Formula 3

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    I just went ahead with the purchase of an 812 GTS instead of the 296 GTS. I don’t want an expensive headache. The 296 is otherwise a phenomenal car and I will wait until it is properly sorted. Appreciate all the honest reports here. Kudos!
     
  20. rsguy

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    #270 rsguy, Dec 14, 2024
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    It wasn’t a matter of choice. The battery failed if you care to read the article.
    The other teams experiencing no such issues.
    You have a tendency to make a lot of nonsensical excuses even when irrefutable evidence is staring you in the face.
     
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  21. 488gtbmasergt

    488gtbmasergt Karting

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    I agree with you.
    The car is exceptional to drive. Slow and fast. On the road and on the track.
    What seems to be a problem which is not an anecdote here vs. the majority of everyone's experience with this 296 or other recent F cars is that electronic issues are not some rare occurences and when they occur they take a long time to solve. Believe me, when it happens to you (and I hope it will not) you will understand better the reason why some of us are "upset".
    It has nothing to do do with the pleasure to drive the car. It has to do with the questions you ask yourself before using it for a road trip (for example) and should something that you experienced personally will occur again when you are (far) away from home.
    Why do I pay full insurance for a year when my car is stuck at the dealership for a few months not fault of mine? What if my car needs to be towed when I am abroad in the middle of nowhere (and not close to my familiar homebase)? What if I put the top down on my GTS has it should be and it starts raining and I cannot bring it back up (like it happened before)? Etc etc...
    Not cool for the experience of a $350'000+ car
     
  22. KL runner

    KL runner Formula Junior

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    You need to immerse yourself in the world of F1 .
    The problem was first detected during the pre-heating phase of the power unit before the session, with the energy store in question being introduced in Canada, some 15 races before . The other car had no issues.

    In the 2024 Formula One season, several teams and drivers have experienced battery issues, including:
    • Charles Leclerc: During first practice, Leclerc's car had a battery issue and he was forced to use his third battery, which resulted in a 10-place grid penalty.
    • Mercedes: In the first round, Lewis Hamilton experienced a battery issue, while George Russell's car had overheating problems with the power unit.
    • Williams: Albon used the third battery in the 2024 Austrian GP.
    To equate issues in an externally sourced SK On Battery in a 296 to issues in an F1 car is truly ‘nonsensical’ to quote your good self .

    Further if that was the case does that mean that Mercedes may have problems with their hybrid and full electric cars given that their works team and a customer team had problems ?

    Mmmm I think you may need to read a little more , perhaps own a 296 and then comment .
     
  23. DragonRR

    DragonRR Karting

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    I have had some problems with my 296 but no more than I've had with most other cars I've owned and less than some. Absolutely love the 296, prefer it to my Pista (which blew a turbo). I have had FAR more problems with Porsches I've owned.
     
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  24. x z8

    x z8 Formula 3

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    Over 200 GTB’s for sale on Cars.com and GROWING (most with less than 1 or 2,000 miles). Adding GTS- much higher and will only grow as they are still delivering cars. My confirmed allocation is for 18 months from now- plenty of time for me to reconsider/ cancel. At some point- these will likely be discounted lightly used at a level that will be worth the headache. These cars will need to clear the market which will take lower prices to do so. Already buyable at 20% off MSRP. When the cars are at the mid 200’s virtually unused- might be irresistible for a car providing hyper car performance.
     
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  25. rsguy

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    #275 rsguy, Dec 15, 2024
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    Lol I don’t need to immerse myself in anything. The facts remain there was no choice - the battery had failed (again) and had to be charged.
    Stating they had a choice (not to replace it) is nonsense.
    The two teams which mattered were not faced with this issue (in the final race) - again what i was clearly referring to - but you again chose to take my two sentences out of (clear) context by offering another pointless rant as another feeble excuse for the situation.

    As a two Ferrari owner with my own set of experiences associated to electrical and battery related failures, witnessing many other owners experiencing the exact same issues, reading countless owners accounts of same issues (here and elsewhere), listening to first hand frustrations of staffs in Ferrari’s service workshops about these same issues, would normally be enough said for anyone to digest and accept as a reality, but by all means please continue to rant on with further nonsensical excuses, none of which will ever change the facts.
     
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