anyone heard of or bought from italian-cars.net?

Hi all

I am in the market for an F430 and stumbled upon this company (they had an ebay listing).

http://www.italian-cars.net/fer_f430_yellow_2006.php

Has anyone heard of these guys or bought from them? They are based in Hong Kong and Japan. They say they are selling US model cars and pay for shipping to the US.

Any advice on this would be appreciated! Thanks

 

Seems like that website copied all the photos and car information from a Japanese website
http://www.ms-cruise.com/stock_top.html

The Hong Kong address/Hong Kong showroom was copied from Italian Motors (Hong Kong Ferrari dealer).
http://www.dealer.ferrari.com/italianmotors/

To be honest, I have never heard of this car dealer in Hong Kong or seen any of those inventory cars here. I would suggest to stay away from the ebay seller and inform ebay investigate that seller.

 

Don't you think at least you have to send an email to the owner of that site to learn more about the fact before saying those bad thing? It's pretty unfair if someone judge the site according your behavior.....Sorry if I am wrong

 

Thanks for the info! I've been emailing the guy from this site and he was telling me that he has US cars, when they are not!

I will email the Ferrari HK dealer and see if they know about this site.

I'll let you guys know

 

Sorry if I have offended you. I have no interest of knowing if this is a real deal or not. I say this because I know italian-cars.net's listed Hong Kong showroom address is the exact location of Italian Motor (Hong Kong Ferrari Dealer). Anyone want to confirm? can contact Italian Motor at Causeway Bay Showroom to see if Italian-cars is a branch of their new business.

G/F Zoroastrian Building, 101 Leighton Road, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong

Tel: +852 2808 0978
Fax: +852 2808 1933

Opening Times

Sales:
Monday - Saturday: 10:00am to 7:00pm
Sunday & Public Holidays: 11:00am to 6:00pm

http://www.dealer.ferrari.com/italianmotors/

Italian-cars.net's main head office is not a complete address

"How to Reach Us
Italian Cars Limited
Hong Kong Head Office
26 Des Voeux Rd. Central, Hong Kong"

This address does not have floor# or room#. Why would this company sell million dollar items use incomplete address or address that belong to someone else's?

 

Sega 355 has rightly pointed out that the address of Italian-cars.net's showroom address in Hong Kong is exactly the same address of the authorised Ferrari Dealer (Italian Motors) in HK. I went to the office of Italian Motors yerterday, I did NOT see any sign of italian-cars.net there !!!

Since you have got italian-cars.net as your Homepage, may be you can explain this. Give us the exact location of your office and I will walk over there to find out for sure if italian-cars.net really has a showroom or any other business there.

is that "fair" enough for you ???

In fact, why should Sega355 or anyone else bother to contact anyone from "italian-cars.net" if they did not provide the correct information in their website in the first place ?! Saga355 has only pointed out the obvious on behalf of others. I don't see any problem there. Instead the owner of this website should immediately issue an explanation to clarify why they used the address of others as their showroom.

m3m3m3, Be very careful with who you are dealing with, keep your money safe in your pocket. If you smell something doggy, just walk away and let us know and inform the administrator of this site immediately. thanks.

cheers

 

Here is the owner of that domain name "italian-cars.net"
That website was created on Mar 06.
Hope this information helps.



Domain name: italian-cars.net

Registrant Contact:
G-Workshop
Hung Jackson ([email protected])
+852.65090026
Fax: +852.65090026
-
Hong Kong, 852 NA
HK

Administrative Contact:
G-Workshop
Hung Jackson ([email protected])
+852.65090026
Fax: +852.65090026
-
Hong Kong, 852 NA
HK

Technical Contact:
G-Workshop
Hung Jackson ([email protected])
+852.65090026
Fax: +852.65090026
-
Hong Kong, 852 NA
HK

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
ns7.hosting-mail.com
ns8.hosting-mail.com

Creation date: 24 Mar 2006 00:47:56
Expiration date: 24 Mar 2007 00:47:56

 

NO OFFEENED because we are all Ferrari Lover or we won't come here, regarding the missing parts of their head office address, I can't find any problem today when I visit the website "about us". I was also sent them an email regarding the matter of the address and they told me that it was the problem of the web designer he put the wrong address instead the exactly ones. I will going to visit their Japan showroom within this week and tell you guys is the showroom really exist or not since I live very close to them.

 

You are so amazing but I don't know how you could get this information, I think it's illegal way to get this and you post people mobile number here. You actions will bring alot of trouble to Hung Jackson with no doubt and your actions may cause legal liability. For my suggestion you have to delete this post before Mr.Hung seeing this and call police. Just my little advice. No Pain.

 

This is not illegal information. This is public information. Just like you look up a phone book to find out who registered that phone#.

Why would Mr.Hung want to call the police? because Mr. Hung is the master mind of all these? Are you Mr. Jackson Hung?

 

Since you don't know how I can get this information, I will tell you how. Just go on yahoo and search for domain directory. Then click into any results and input italian-cars.net. You will then get the same information that I found.

So you think Mr.Hung expected to do multi-million business while hiding behind the internet with wrong contact informations?

 

There's nothing illegal with posting domain registration and phone numbers when this info is in the public domain. If the guy doesn't want people to find out, he could have his registrar block access to that info.

Sega355 should be commended for being vigilant and helping to ensure that fellow F-chatter isn't caught up in a potentially fraudulent situation.

F-chatters have been quite good in unearthing fraud in the past. If you have been here long enough, you would know.

 

Just 1 hour ago, you still had your home page listed as "italian-cars.net" in your profile. Now you have deleted it.

Just 1 hour ago, your name was "Mike". Now you are Kenji in your profile.

 

Thank you for you information anyway, I will go visit their showroom within this week and tell you guys about this company.

 

Just one hour ago, that website had deleted the Causeway Bay showroom address.
They now added Rm. 1801 Wing On Central Building on the head office address.

Maybe Mr. Jackson Hung is reading ferrarichat and following this post?

 

So Mr Kenji (or are you Mr Hung ???) have you called the police yet ?

I note that you have made some significant changes to your profile after you received the correspondence to your previous mail today. The changes you made today include the following:

1. your name was "Mike" this morning, now you are "Kenji".
2. you have now deleted "italian-cars.net" as your homepage.
3. this morning, you were the owner of a F430 and a Enzo, now you have a 2003 360.

what's all these changes for ??? got something to hide ???

The information on your profile has already been recorded on this site, your attempt to change the record is futile. We all have the record !!! We all saw it.

Moreover, why would you be so concerned with what Sega355 has to say, if you are not connected with Mr. Hung or "italian-cars.net" ? what's your problem there ???

By the way, you didn't say anything about the "italian-cars.net" showroom in Hong Kong which shares the same address of the official ferrari dealer in HK. Will you be visiting that showroom and tell us all about it as well ?

Would you like me to take a picture of that particular showroom and post it here ???

 

I can also go to 1801 Wing On building, 26 Des Voeux Road
Central, Hong Kong to take a picture.

 

Nothing like a little ownage before lunch.

 

Wow! This is really exciting. I must say though that the English used on the italian cars net site is quite good.

 

I see that you have already posted several mails on this forum just one day after you have registered as a new user, every each of your mails deliberately mentions "italian-cars.net" one way or the other.

what is your intention here ?

 

This community ROCKS!

Thanks Mickey for the great detective work.

(note to self: Posting information from WHOIS is illegal! LOL)

Reminder .. if it seems too good to be true, it probably is...

 

www.betterwhois.com

www.whois.com


http://www.register.com/

or any number of other sites. The internet info you provide the registrar of your domain makes all the info you give them public.

 

I just wanted to say thanks to Sega355 and Mickey and all the other members. I was the original thread starter and thanks to you all for pointing this site/guy is a total fraud!!!

This is what makes this site AWESOME! Thanks guys!

 

hey guys,

I am just like the rest of you guys, a F-car lover.

What I did there was what we should all do as a F-chatter. I cannot take credit for it.

I just don't like people coming in to this place and mess things up. I did what I felt was right.

Let's work together and keep this place clean. Happy Motoring to you all.

cheers
mic

 

It will be no problem to help out other F-chat members. If italian-cars.net is still bothering you, you can PM his emails and ebay user id to me. I can turn them to Hong Kong news media and Hong Kong Police. Hong Kong is a heaven for international businesses, but has a strict laws against international Fraud. We don't welcome fraudsters...in Hong Kong or in F-chat.