Here are the qualifying tests & thresholds: http://www.us.mensa.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores/QualifyingTestScores/QualifyingScores.htm As far as why SAT, same argument can be made about any IQ test, the test only measures how well you do on that test. For example, a non-native English test-taker would lose many of the points associated with word association and anagrams. The presumption, which is perhaps 80-90% but not 100% effective, is that a highly intelligent person does well on tests related to reasoning, numeric and spatial manipulation, pattern recognition and general knowledge (intelligent people tend to be greater general knowledge sponges). It clearly isn't perfect, for example there are a couple of blind, black musicians that probably wouldn't test well but are clearly highly creative and capable.
so in other words I am among the small amount that defy that data? which sucks for me because i can't do well on the SATs for the life of me
Well these tests are all qualifying alternates for each other under Mensa rules. Since you did 27/30 on the trial test, you could try the Mensa test rather than trying to submit the SAT.
eh. dont really wanna be in mensa. too much effort for no reason. It is probably a 70 question test that by question 40 my ADD would kick in and I would get bored and quit
Got 29/30. I also tested at an IQ of 162 (as a child). The reality is that all this shows is one's ability to analyze quickly and to pass these specific types of tests, mostly a worthless talent imo. Also means that I wasted my youth doing stupid stuff like this when I should have been out partying. Personally, I would much rather have quick wit than quick analytical thinking. I think better people skills are far more valuable and would have gotten me much further. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I skipped one, guessed on one, and got 26 correct. My wife joined MENSA while in college. Went to one get together, got TOTALLY CREEPED OUT, ran away, never went back. The sales manager of a company that rents space from me is a member. Has the certificate hanging on his office wall. ( I guess he couldn't find a certificate that says "F-YOU I'm smart!!!) Drives a '98 firebird and has a mullet. Often seen wearing full length leather jacket and cowboy boots. He is one odd fellow. BUT HE IS SMART, the MENSA membership proves it!!! Dave
I'm eligible, based on old GRE scores. A while back I checked out the North Texas Mensa website to see what they were up to... Bridge. Hearts. Snake Safety. Bead weaving. Gourd carving(!) hmmmmm, no, not for me.
Alright, darn it. I took it a second time, and got a 30 (last was a 23). See, practice makes perfect... Now, where do I sign up? Those questions looked awefully similar the second time around though ... The key is being able to retain the answers for 2-3 minutes while you go back and do it again . A true sign of wisdom is learning quickly how to cheat .
yep there's no tangible outcome to the tests except to say that you got such and such a score on them. however they are very comprehensive, it's not like a 10 minute magazine quiz or who wants to be a millionairre. the 'common knowledge' component is kept to a minimum as it's obviously not always culturally significant. there's no "what country does this..." and no clever 'trick' questions like you see in email 'mensa' tests. it's been a while, but as i recall there were 3 tests, one 90 minute general IQ stuff which most of us will have seen, there was a logic and math one that went for about an hour, and a half hour test of spatial awareness and stuff like that. it was all fully supervised and even though i did pretty well the pressure is high as the more you do the more questions you notice are left to do and the clock is ticking.
Come on people lets turn up the difficulty a little bit... Power Test: http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/power.html Norming for Power Test:http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/power_estimate.html Uhh...yeah... I've got a smart friend who makes a point of it to walk out of any (engineering) test first (along with getting the A).
The requirements they post on the website are not the only ways to get in. If you feel your scores are worthy, but it isnt listed there (high SAT, some other test, MCAT?) you can ask them. My sister qualified based on her LSAT, but it was basically a waste of money, so i never bothered to join. But i asked if they would accept me based on SAT scores, and they reviewed my SAT I and II and said yes, (I took it in 2003), so the requirements are not set in stone.
What percentile is required on the SAT in order to get accepted? I've always wondered how they do it with tests that don't look at the whole population sample.
True...but (in my profession) a banker with all the degrees in the world, is worth squat if he has no people skills, doesn' know how to talk to customers, has no tact during negotiations, or is not wise to a fraud artist. School is a must (no argument here)....but once in the real world, it's a whole different ball game.
LOL...! Good thing the test isn't filled with grammar quizzes - this whole site would've failed...! (minus me, of course... )