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  1. 09Scuderia

    09Scuderia F1 Rookie

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    I am guessing that new OEM rotors/ pads/ fluid + install would run around $1500. For the added $500-$1500 BBKs may be worth the upgrade. I LOVE great brakes. I actually prefer a slower car with great brakes vs a faster car with just OK brakes.

    A BBK would hypothetically best the OE brakes because:
    - Newer
    - Larger rotor.
    - Larger caliper with more bite (pistons)
    - SS lines (debatable)
    etc.

    Anyone installed a BBK and can offer feedback?

    - Stoptech (used in F1): $2k
    Stop Tech 83.305.0046.22 StopTech Big Brake Kit

    - Brembo: $3k
    308 Formula Dynamics / Brembo® Big Brake Kit for<br>  Ferrari

    - Griodisc: $3k
    Girodisc brakes

    - Tarox: $3k
    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/308-328/105686-6-piston-328-front-brake-kit.html
     
  2. don_xvi

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  3. 09Scuderia

    09Scuderia F1 Rookie

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    cool....thanks for posting. Did know about these.
     
  4. 09Scuderia

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    hmmmm.....not sure if those will work on a 328....asking...
     
  5. Hannibal308

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    Every BBK listed, and OEM, will let you skid at the right input when wearing street shoes. So, unless your sporting big rhubarb or worried about heat, fade, etc on a track or rally, what's the point?

    It's actually a serious question. For road driving, and I do mean pushing hard, I have never wished I had better brakes. There always seems to be more than enough with OEM. So I'm left wondering what you actually get for your money? A big red caliper for your 70s or 80s classic? Or can you actually stop quicker? Any references to stop distances out there?

    Ciao!
     
  6. 09Scuderia

    09Scuderia F1 Rookie

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    Wondering the same....

    I am sure the newer designed calipers with 4-6 and even 10 pistons make a significant difference in stopping power. The hypothetical lower weight of the overall system would make a difference in unsprung weight as well.
     
  7. wildcat326

    wildcat326 Formula 3

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    I tried to look up on each web site, and they all have different ways of measuring weight savings. Some state weight, some state how much weight savings, and some state only front brake stats.

    Can ANYONE do a breakdown of what factory brakes (both front and rear) weigh, and what each of these alternative systems weighs?

    That would certainly help for comparison purposes.

    Thanks.
     
  8. Owens84QV

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    Not that it's an apples to apples comparison, but, our E46 M3 race car (NASA GTS3) is running stock calipers and Centric rotors with upgraded Performance Friction PFC8 pads...and we hang with the other guys who spend many thousands on big brake kits.
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I have seen some very quickly driven 328 track cars with standard brakes. The cars just don't have the power to really need much help.

    I helped Girodisc with the rotors for their kit. Nice parts. At least theirs fit the standard wheels and you don't need to make it look like a hot wheels car to install them.
     
  10. singletrack

    singletrack F1 Veteran

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    Stock brakes are ok for street in my experience. I need to experiment with compound to get them more to my liking.

    Going to a brembo kit like that will typically open the door to more brake pad compounds which might change the brake feel and performance substantially.

    In general, it is very difficult to actually improve stopping distance without making other adjustments to the system; such as at the master cylinder.

    Sometimes these kits are easier to service as well...just some things to consider.
     
  11. sherpa23

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    +1

    I had an 88.5 328 GTB and an 84 308QV GTB and I never thought the car needed more brakes. And that's on spirited drives on winding Colorado mountain roads. The OEM brakes work really well on the car.
     
  12. Hannibal308

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    #12 Hannibal308, Aug 21, 2014
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2014
    Agreed...an unsprung weight advantage, which may contribute to better braking performance in our cars.

    I would love to see some freshly-tuned OEM deceleration data then repeated with the same car with a really light-weight BBK installed...

    Ciao!
     
  13. wrouster

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    I have to agree with the people who are saying bigger brakes are not the answer. After I first bought my 328, I noticed that it squealed under heavy braking and attributed that to older tires. I purchased a set of Bridgestone RE-11A's and problem solved. No more squealing and excellent stopping power. Of course, you might want the painted rotors and less unsprung weight of the big brake kits.
     

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