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anyone know...colt 45 peacemaker??

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  1. marknkidz

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    Ok...

    got a bug to buy an old west style colt 45 peacemaker pistol (i think it is a peacemaker)....

    I have ZERO knowledge on these guns...or any guns for that matter...

    just thought it would be Kool to put it in a display case and pass it down to kids...piece of old west americana..

    any info as to what model to buy... or where to get one??

    want to keep it around 1200-2000 bucks...

    thanx in advance
    mark
     
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    Hmmm... I seem to recall some posts in Rossa that were something along these lines with very large 6-shooters.

    I'll go post a link in there to see if I can tempt some of those guys to take a looksie in here. ;)

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    Ah... well, I guess that just goes to show how little I know about revolvers. :eek:

    All the best,
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    #7 UroTrash, Dec 9, 2010
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    If you are buying for the reasons you describe, you may consider a genuine colt black powder pistol that just reeks Americana.

    Advantages:

    It is a real pistol, you can shoot it with black powder and ball. It's actually kinda fun shooting black powder with all the smoke. (Actually you use Pyrodex now as BP is dangerous to store)

    It is a real Colt, a continuation of the Civil War era guns.

    It is not deemed a firearm by the ATF so you do not have to buy it through a gun dealer or any of the other hassles of buying a cartridge firearm.

    They look reallllly cool.

    Well within your price range.
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    In fact, for your price range you maybe able to get a set of these weapons in different calibers.

    The only one I have is a small one, .32 caliber called the Navy model. I think there were maybe 4 or 5 in the series, made in the 1980s IIRC.

    addendum: found a pic
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    Great info...

    thanx guys... will start researching a bit.
     
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    Uro... exactly the kind i want.

    again...a complete GREEN PEA!! LOL

    just want something from the old west AKA "Tombstone".... I'll be your huckleberry!! that kind
     
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    Be prepared to spend big bucks for a Colt compared to a Smith & Wesson, or pretty much any other revolver. I just looked at a few at an antique gun shop and was amazed. The history is all that – sort of like Ferrari.
     
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    I can help. I am hoping to add a 2nd Generation Colt to my collection of Single Action guns, I have a few of the Italian made replicas, and several Rugers. You can get a nice .45 Colt of off Gunbroker for around $1200.00. I want one with a 71/2 barrel, in .45 Colt, as i am going to shoot / use it. Other calibers can be bought a bit cheaper than .45 Colt, like 38-40, 32-20.

    All you need to buy off Gunbroker, is a local FFl dealer to send a copy of their license to the seller. Most dealers charge $25.00 for the transfer. You dont have to pay taxes unless the selling dealer is in the same State as you. Most dealers will let you pay over the phone with a credit card, or by mail with Money orders, ect.

    I have done this a few times, and I have been very active on Gunbroker, looking for the right "shooter grade" Colt .
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    Nice collection CR!
     
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    Do NOT get a Rugger.


    Get a COLT!


    If you see two at the same time, listen to the "click" while cocking.

    (Watch The Good, The Bad, And the Ugly scene when Tooco makes a Gun!)
     
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    agree if he wants to display the gun, but Ruger Blackhawks and new Vaqueros are amazing. They have taken over almost all of the Cowboy Action shooting events, as the Colts have to be "tuned" and the Italian replicas have to be totally rebuilt to stand up to the use / abuse of action shooting.

    My Rugers were born in March of 2007, and engraved by Rob Bunting. 19 sequential serial numbers sets were done in that run, with 2 more small runs done later that year. Though they say "one of one thousand" on them, the Fact is Ruger discontinued this model, and made 379 sets, but not all were engraved.

    Rob Bunting and Heidi Roos transitioned to Baron Engraving in 2008.

    This means very few Rugers were engraved by Ruger , in the factory, by the factory engraver. After that, Baron did all the work outside as a Contractor.

    I contacted Ruger, and spoke with someone who was a manager to the Studio Art and Design group for Ruger who made these, and the other custom shop guns. She verified in 2 letters with my guns serial number, when they were made, who engraved them, and that they were done in house by Ruger.

    I am saying all of this, as you still find a few sets of these engraved Ruger on Gunbroker for "around" $3500.00. I think they would make a good static display, and they will go up in value. Ruger used to engrave guns in the factory in the 60's and 70's. Those guns are some of the most sought after by Ruger gurus. Ruger only resurrected factory engraving for those 18 months or so between late 2006- mid 2008.

    Yes i still want a Colt. I will have one in the next few weeks i think. But a single, "plain-jane " Colt is $1500-2000. an engraved Colt? try $3000 to ??????????. Yet you can get a PAIR of engraved Rugers, with papers, and a display case.

    one other thing. The Rugers have a lock in the gripframe. you can lock them so they cannot fire, not that you ( the OP) would display them loaded, but it adds peace of mind, and if they are ever stolen, they are more likely to be recovered if they cannot be cocked, loaded or fired.
     
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    I should clarify, there is NOTHING wrong with a Ruger gun. It will fire five days past forever and is a joy in the hand.

    My complaint is the sound of the action. Ruger (most of them) is a two set spring and tag and Colt is a for or five. So to get the sound used in just about every cowboy show ever made, you need the Colt. (They may even have a trade mark on it!)
     
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    Ruger's were not used in the old west.
    So it will never have the real look are feel of an old west gun.
    If close is what you are after or "kinda like" is good enough Ruger makes great facsimiles.
    The second generation Colts are good but also have difference from the real thing.
    The second generation Colt Black powder guns do not have gain twist barrels for example.
    It looks like 'Case coloring' instead of 'Case hardening' on the receivers of the second generation Colts to me.
    Also personally I like holster wear on my original Colts, having the end of the barrel worn almost to the rifling from rubbing the saddle, cool. The grip polished smooth from countless handling by long dead men, nice.
    The real stuff always will hold their value more than a new reproduction.
     
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    Spot on!
     
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    the 4 clicks are said to spell out C-O-L-T. :)

    The new Ruger New Vaquero is very, very close to a Colt, with the exception of the transfer bar firing mechanism, and perhaps a few minor surfaces features.

    But I already said that I too, wish to acquire a real Colt soon, just to have one.

    I LOVE my Series 70 Gold Cup 1911's I have ! :cool:
     
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    Yours?

    Pretty pistol!
     
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    OMG... this is more confusing than buying my first Ferrari!!

    went to gun shop to get an education... only to leave completely confused and actually a bit turned off.. Gunshop owner Extremely nice guy who basically told me dont buy anything!! research research research!! well thats just not my thing.

    Was hoping to get a first gen SAA colt 45... after looking a bit.. my son and i liked the looks of the older models.. the ball and cap (i think thats the name??) old very blue looking fairly long barrell kinda like some of the pix you guys posted..

    the colt SAA 45 first gen is So koool but almost looks like a modern day pistol!! not much has changed..

    anyways i will keep looking..Maybe i will run across someone who knows someone that can be trusted and has one for sale that i could buy...

    Gun store owner warned me that more times than not uneducated buyers (ME!!) get ripped off!! LOL very reassuring!!

    so if anyone knows someone..please drop me a PM

    thanx again
    mark
     
  24. thecarreaper

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    Mark, go to Gunbroker, and type in "Colt cap and ball". you can also try "Colt Single". The early guns are Percussion , later guns are cartridge.

    You can buy Percusion guns with no FFL, But i see you are in Kalifornia, so I dont know the laws there.

    A first Gen Colt cartridge gun is going to cost you way more than your posted budget, and is not something you want to leave " out on display". A genuine Modern made Colt percussion like the good Doctor posted can be had for around what you posted, but they dont really go up in value like the SAA. ( Single Action Army or "cowboy gun").

    You will need to focus on what you want to have. Again, original percussion Colts, 1850-1860 are going to be over $3500+++, and they do in fact seem to hold thier value. But there is alot of put together junk out there, so you should meet up with someone to help you.
     
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    Mine. My father had a civil war era one like it, went to one of my brothers.
     

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