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Anyone tried 812 rims on the 599??

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  1. johns930

    johns930 Formula 3

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    Pictures would be great! Thank you all!

    Like this one :

    on the 599, crunching the offset numbers and tire sizing help would be great.


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  2. spirot

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    I know the bolt patter works... but not sure of all the rest.

    BTW - Rims = Wheels.... hate the word "rims" in the Ferrari world.
     
  3. George Vosburgh

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    I've thought about this wheel on the 599, it's a great look! Taz can tell you if it will fit.
     
  4. DZ-96

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    my excel calculator should help

    Daniel
     

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  5. DZ-96

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    The grey line in the excel is the variant with spacers i had on my 599 GTB and it looks like the photo
    Remember that i had 255 and 315 tires instead of 245 and 305

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  6. DZ-96

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    So the grey line with
    80,1 mm front
    and
    100,9 mm rear
    from hub to outside rim, is near the maximum you can go without rubbing.
    Car was lowered with standard springs.

    The 599 GTO wheels were possible with 22 mm spacers rear, no spacers front, also without rubbing
    They had
    82,55 mm front
    and
    104,25 mm rear
    from hub to outside rim

    812 twisted forged wheels have (without spacers)
    78,6 mm front
    and
    88,75 mm rear
    from hub to outside rim

    So you could go with about 15mm spacers at the rear to get them outside to the limit.

    Daniel
     
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  7. DZ-96

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    GTO tires are 285/30 front and 315/35 rear
    812 sizes are 275/35 rear and 315/35 rear

    The front could be critical, because the 285/30 GTO setup or the 255/35 is near max diameter with these offsets.
    275/35 is larger
     
  8. DZ-96

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    I meant : The grey line (line 9) is the data the wheel has from hub to rim flange.

    You can compare the various datas from the various wheels.

    Remember, you can compare line 7 only, these datas are without any spacers.
     
  9. tazandjan

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    Here are the wheel specs on the 812 and 599. Look like a pretty good match, like Daniel said. Make a simple drawing on a piece of paper and the offset starts from the wheel centerline.

    812 Superfast/812 GTS/Competitizione



    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 10J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 57.3 mm

    599/HGTE/SA Aperta


    Five Spoke F 19”, R 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

    Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

    HGTE/SA Aperta Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm

    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 40 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm
     
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  10. Chindit

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    Taz provided me with this info in another thread. I had always found the topic of wheel offset to be a bit confusing. I thought this graphic might facilitate this discussion. Thanks again, Taz!

     

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  11. Skidkid

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    I like them, and if I didn't have HGTE wheels with the thin spokes I might consider them.
     
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  13. johns930

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    Thanking all!! I know I can count on all u old pals.
    So no one done them yet?? Hmmmm… I’ll be the first. Hahahaha.
    Thanks to all again!
     
  14. johns930

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    Oh and tires size I think I’ll go with 265/30 fronts and 315/30 rears.
     
  15. George Vosburgh

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    You go first and then we can see how they look!
     
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  16. moehhab

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    Just checked this post, I asked Taz couple of months ago about it and he confirmed it will fit.
    I had a friend who wanted to sell the twisted 812 rims and I went for it. It’s fixed on my car.
    But for your information there is a picture on instagram of a 599 with 812 rims next to 599 gto and some other pictures special project based on 599 with the 812 rims, which means they had these rims before releasing the 812.
    It’s lighter than the gto by 8 or 12 kg am not sure because I was checking the weight of couple of rims mixed up with the numbers.
    I felt the difference in driving and switching gears, its smoother and lighter.
    good luck it will look beautiful and refreshed.
     
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  17. George Vosburgh

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    Pictures?
     
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    I wish I had not seen this picture .... because Now I WANT those wheels on my car!!!! It really updates the 599... looks fantastic.
     
  21. moehhab

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    How much lower do you recommend?
    Definitely yes ! You are right
     
  22. moehhab

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    Thanks a lot ! I agree, when I fixed it the garage guy told me it’s like a Botox refreshed the car
    But I still think the GTO wheels looks more sportier, I went for it because it seems the quality is much better than the gto. Let’s not forget GTO wheels are old and technology updated the products.
     
  23. johns930

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    Wow! Looks great!
    But I’m surprised the fronts fit on urs because when I test fitted mine the inner part of the wheel will touch the inner wheel well things on full lock so I’m waiting on my 1.5cm spacers for the front.
    And may I ask what tire size u have in the front? I’m thinking about going 265/30/20 because the 812 front wheel 10” width is a little too much for the 245/35s stock ones.
    I’m going to post a 812 rims don’t fit a 599 thread soon


     

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