430 Anyone with 430 considered 458, then passed?

Blue, couio interior, carbon trim, race seats, gold speciale wheels. Sub 10k mi. Common now.


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Yeah, I drove one back-to-back with a Huracan....which was much more exciting and up to date. The 458 came off as dated and muted.....I would much rather buy a Scuderia than a 458.

 

That might be Pozzi not TdF. Those wheels are not for me.

 

Those are 488 wheels aren’t they?

 

i would keep the 430 . because the 458 has problems with the trans ... internally with the with sensors .

 

Easy to generalise. I've not had problems with my transmission sensor.

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The problem with social media is that a few people post negative experiences, which are amplified by others, and to the new reader it's look like all of that model catch fire and burn to the ground.

You never hear from the thousands of owners who had NO problems.

Ray

 

My point as well

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I have a F430 and a 458. Yesterday I traded the F430 in for a Huracan Spyder. Had to drive the Ferrari 125 miles to the dealership. Great analog experience and surprisingly comfortable for almost a 2 hour drive. Brought the Huracan back on the same drive, and the technology is incredible and can’t be compared. Of course there is a 10+ year difference on the cars, but the tech and fit/finish much better than the 458 also. However, I found the Huracan is not as engaging as the 458 when driving.

 

The blue 458 above allegedly has an undisclosed salvage title. Lengthy thread on the 458 forum.
I just purchased a 2012 458 in December after owning a 360 and then a 430. As a long time 360/430 forum member, I'll say I now wouldn't go back to either of those cars as great as they are. Loved them both. The 458 is, as rightly pointed out, a different car, quieter, more power, more sophisticated.

 

No regrets. Went from this:
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COVID purchase. Salesperson was saying that he has been seeing a lot of this. If I was not so restless working and shelter at home (thanks California), I probably would still have the F430.

 

This feels exactly like what I went through at this time last year. I’m a long time Porsche guy (owned 18 of them, including eleven 911s). In Feb of last year I decided to take the Italian route. Drove a Lambo, 458 Spider and a 430 Spider. At 5’11” and 225, the Lambo def wasn’t a fit, and 500 yards out of the dealer I turned around. Then drove the 458. Great car, quick shifting, head turner a lot of fun. Almost bought it right there. Then I went to drive the 430. I fell in love with the more visceral feeling of it, how you really have to pay attention to driving it. After the 430, I realized the 458 was really very much like a 911 from the 997 on up. PDK is IMHO the best DCT in the world, you don’t have to think while driving it. To me, the 458 felt very much like a 911 Turbo S. Obv completely different look, and reactions are wayyyy different. But I wanted a different driving experience then that.

I’m probably going to get flamed for it, but I went with the 430 because it felt nothing like a 911. I loved that I really had to pay attention to driving it, I’m totally engaged with only the car when driving it. Honestly, I couldn’t tell you if the radio even works (helps that the previous owner already put an S Line in it). I can’t imagine getting rid of this car, I don’t really think I want anything else but it, and this is coming from a guy who’s owned 42 cars in the last 20 years.

430 Spider for my fun summer car, 970 Panamera Turbo for my DD and a Ram 1500 Laramie for bad weather, this is my lineup for a while!

 

We have nearly the same garage, the DBS manual I got in 2016, F430 coupe F1 2018. Despite all the negativity surrounding single clutch I love them for that same reason. Shifting is so satisfying!

 

Does anyone else look for cars that you can drive with the windows down and no buffeting? This was one reason I went with the 430 (and actually the 355 is the same way). I don't feel the need for a spider because the car has almost no noise with the windows down, even at like 100+. Some convertibles have a lot of wind noise that I think detracts from the experience. With the windows down in the 430 I can (1) keep the climate in the car controlled better (2) have the chassis rigidity of the coupe (3) and hear everything going on over my left shoulder through the intake like it's trying to pull me in. Plus I like the lines better and you can see the engine in the rear view mirror.

My Audi R8 was horrible. Over about 40 mph having the windows down was almost unbearable. The Aston is not so great either, but the car sounds soooo good with the windows up since the drivetrain is essentially in your lap.

 

Yes. 360s and 430s seem fine with windows down. But a number of Porsches have wind buffeting issues with the windows down. So much so the aftermarket came up with these solutions.
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Google the dealer's name and "reviews" and you'll understand why not to buy *ANYTHING* from them, let alone that specific vehicle.

 

I was just in the market for a 458 for months after selling our F430. But a well sorted Blue Pozzi F430 popped up on Fchat for a great price and I opted to buy it immediately. I test drove several 458's and do think its a major step forward. However, I still love driving the F430 and honestly may opt for a Scud over the 458 because its a bit more raw of a driving experience and I like that.

 

I have read posts from 458 owners on here stating that they basically have to be going 100 MPH before the car starts getting exciting. Having driven an Italia, a 458 Spider and a Speciale, I can see where they are coming from. I didn't go very fast in the Speciale, but I would say that it was very exciting when the owner floored it and went through the gears. Ferocious acceleration. But the car just gets to scary speeds so fast! Now the Scuderia is just insane. When that thing goes through the gears (even if you don't floor it), it sounds just like an Indy car. The sound it makes between gear shifts (like a little bomb going off) is amazing. I want one!

 

Personally, I'm only interested in a gated car, which of course rules out the 458 anyway.

My budget allowed for a F430 F1 spider which I have had converted to a gated6.

I'm pretty sure if I had to do it again, and I had a $300k budget, I'd do the exact same thing.

Driving this car is incomparable.

The price for an F1 model+the conversion is the supercar bargain among available options.

 

oh no you went and both a lambo you cant consider that a car . that is downgrade from Ferrari. Its a farm car

 

No worries, I still have my 458

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