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  1. Birdman

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    #1 Birdman, Oct 26, 2008
    I got the part number from the service manual and googled them. The site says these are for a 308, which they are not if the picture is accurate. I'm hoping one of you Mondial experts knows.

    http://www.autocarparts.com/part/242/3947/

    Thanks!

    I need new rear shocks. Mine are shot!

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  2. gerritv

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    #2 gerritv, Oct 26, 2008
    Hi
    82 1831SP1 are for the 308GT4 only, no other Ferrari seems to use them. So not for the Mondial.


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  3. Birdman

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    #3 Birdman, Oct 26, 2008
    T Rutlands seems to have something:

    http://www.trutlands.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=114335-13

    No picture....no Koni part number. But almost $300/each. I guess that's not really that bad, all things considering.


    But the Mondial Service Manual lists the part number for the rear Konis on the Mondial QV as "82 x 1831"

    The Koni North America site has no record of any Koni in a Mondial ever (they list numbers for the 308, 400, and several other models, but no Mondial).

    Why oh why can't anything ever be simple with these cars?

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    #4 Birdman, Oct 26, 2008
    Gerrit,
    Are you sure? What is the "SP1" part? because the Mondial manual says that the mondial uses the 82 1831.

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  5. Steve Magnusson

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    #5 Steve Magnusson, Oct 26, 2008
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    Birdman -- Check the various Mondial OMs in Section 4 under "suspensions" (at about page 86 in the US OMs). I didn't check them all, but several show:

    front = Koni 82P-2069

    rear = Koni 82P-2073
     
  6. gerritv

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    #6 gerritv, Oct 26, 2008
    It would appear that there were various shocks used? Original Ferrari V8 shows Bilsteins for Mondial 1, and Koni for 3.2 and QV. That book says the Koni's are as Steve M mentioned above.

    Perhaps the wisest thing is to take a wheel off and check what is actually on the shock?

    Re: 82 1831 SP1, I have been repeatedly told they were used only on the 308GT4. And they are supposedly out of production. I just bought a pair from Superformance in the UK with date code 2907.
     
  7. racespecferrari

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    #7 racespecferrari, Oct 27, 2008
    Eurospares have them for £84.50 each.

    http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partsListing.asp?M=1&Mo=665&A=1&B=39037&S=&ID4=1579484

    They list the number as 114335. Superceded From Part No. 126623

    Also with the pound sterling being so bad they might be quite a good buy, although the postal weight might be an issue.

    Its a shame you don't need fronts as I have a brand new boxed pair in my garage ( I paid £100 on fleabay + £15 postage about 4 years ago). I would just like to get my money back if possible.
     
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    #8 Birdman, Oct 27, 2008
    Weird! The OM has a different number than the service manual!
     
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    #10 Birdman, Oct 27, 2008
    You have a PM. For the right price, I'll buy them.
     
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    #11 jeffQV, Oct 27, 2008
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    Just had a pair delivered here in NZ from Eurospares, 4 days from shipping to delivery, brilliant!
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    #12 Birdman, Oct 28, 2008
    Awesome! Sounds like that's the way to go. Thanks to all!
     
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    #13 racespecferrari, Oct 29, 2008
    Pm replied:)
     
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    #14 Birdman, Oct 29, 2008
    Jeff, how much was shipping? Eurospares doesn't reply to e-mails.

    I put the Mondi on the lift and the rears are in fact 82P-2073. Can't read the fronts...springs are in the way.
     
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    #15 gerritv, Oct 29, 2008
    They have a Delivery button near top right of their front page where you can figure out the costs. Probably will use UPS so be prepared to bend over. I have learned to refuse buying from places that only ship via UPS. It once cost me $50 is shipping plus another $45 in misc charges (not taxes or import duties BTW) to get 10 chips delivered from the US!!!
     
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    #16 Birdman, Oct 29, 2008
    I just called a Koni dealer in the USA and gave them the part number of the shock. They had no record of it, and told me to call Koni about getting them rebuilt. As many of you know, I had a bad experience with having Konis for my 308 rebuilt in the past, although it was not Koni that rebuilt them. Just for giggles, I called Koni and they said it will be $125 per shock plus $40-$60 in parts each. So we're talking $200 per shock to REBUILD them. Eurospares looks cheap now. But the shipping from UK is going to be a killer.

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    #17 gerritv, Oct 29, 2008
    Hi, as a point of comparison on the UPS charges, a pair of 308GT4 rear shocks cost me CD$96 in shipping from the UK to Toronto via Parcel Force. Superformance.co.uk do not use UPS thank goodness. Perhaps you can get Eurospares to use that shipping option in place of UPS?

    Gerrit
    http://dino308gt4.com
     
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    #18 jeffQV, Oct 29, 2008
    The total price was $800 NZ, so thats about £300 so shipping was expensive!
     
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    #19 brettski, Oct 30, 2008
    nope, not an option. they do however, have great UPS rates...it just that when UPS gets to your door you take it in the ass.
    there's nothing Eurospares can do about that, it's just the UPS cash grab.
     
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    #20 racespecferrari, Oct 30, 2008
    It looks like I have found a good courier company here in the Uk.

    I have paid for a pair of Konis to be collected from me today and shipped to a friend;) in the US for £35 on a 2 day courier delivery. I won't post the name of the company or a link yet in case they turn out not as good as I hoped. But they could be handy if any of you guys need something heavyish from the Uk.
     
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    #21 Birdman, Oct 30, 2008
    Cool!
     
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    #22 Birdman, Nov 5, 2008
    I just received a nice pair of new front shocks from Pete! Thanks Pete! Fchatters to the rescue again! Pete shipped via DHL which was super reasonable.

    I also just ordered a pair of rears from Eurospares, and I have to say, they were a delight to deal with on the phone and assured me that the shipping to my door would be no more than £28.00 via UPS and I will have them early next week.

    How cool is that?? :D

    The rear shocks with shipping came to £197.00 which is about $315.00 at today's exchange rate, or about the cost of ONE shock without shipping from Rutlands.

    I tell you people....now is the time to buy all that stuff you wanted to get from the UK...the exchange rate is the best it has been in ages.

    <looking for stuff to buy from Superformance UK>

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  23. racespecferrari

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    #23 racespecferrari, Nov 5, 2008
    No problem at all, glad I could help (and you also helped to fund my 348 bumpers that will be appearing in a thread soon:))


    I still have some Mondy spares from my stripped out project all ready to be shipped across the pond hint hint wink wink;);)
     

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