Are you satisfied with the current form of racing?

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So who of the current drivers would have the cahones to race that full out?

 

Great question. If that was the fastest available and ran in sanctioned events there would be a lot of real racers willing.

 

Interesting thread......

I was thinking about doing yet another infamous poll along the same lines;

- "The best F1's ever been"
- "Too much like taxicab racing for me"
- "It's OK, but I'd rather they weren't passing each quite as much"

Or something.....

"Careful what you wish for" is my take - For years we've heard it's boring, there's no overtaking, aero is too important, blah, blah.

Now they've given it to us, we're still not happy! "Can't please all the people all the time"......

I guess the question becomes are you more or less likely to watch this "format" of the formula? Personally, I'm not sure - The DRS certainly let's 'em pass, but is it too artificial?

As for the tires falling apart and the clagg causing problems - Seems to me they're dealing with it pretty well.

Cheers,
Ian

 

The teams have shown that they can adapt to whatever rule change thrown at them. The problem is the number of changes the FIA keeps coming up with.
It can't be done this season but getting rid of the problematic tires and substitute refueling would serve the desired effect.

 

KERS is fair. Everyone can have it and everyone can use it. It also requires strategy.

DRS on the other hand is unfair. Requires no strategy. Used in one place on the track and the trailing car passes most of the time.

I support things that require advancing technology, reducing limits and re-masculating the sport. Refueling? Great. Unlimited engine size and power? Great. Unlimited aero? Great. People would be flocking to every event to see what kinds of crazy strategies and new technologies each team brings to each race.

F the green movement. Is UFC going green? NO, and they are drawing the lion share of viewer dollars and viewer loyalty.

F1 is going to die a long slow death if left to these short sighted greening/cost saving moves.

 

I love the new format, I just wish they'd bring back refueling. f1 is very exciting right now I love all of the different strategy plays, and i like not know who's really going to finish where.

If only the other teams could fight red bull a little more we'd have perfect racing.

 

I just consider DRS as bringing back the ability to slipstream. It's been impossible for years because the dirty air meant the car behind couldn't stay close enough to the car in front. End result is the same...if you can get close enough, you can overtake....and it doesn't make it easy enough that it's ridiculous either. there were plenty of times it didn't work yesterday.


It's no big deal...I like it.

 

We agree!

I hadn't actually thought of it as an ability to slipstream, but a big "+1" on that.

That it didn't always work suggests they've got it about right (?)

Cheers,
Ian
PS - I can argue the other way as well......

 

this has been one of the few disappointing rule changes, is this F1 or stock car racing ?

I want to see the best engines with some new innovations, how the hell are they going to improve engines if they don't let them experiment

I see this as a safety issue and totally like the hard runoff areas, lets drivers have a serious go with only the possibility of losing a few places if it ends in tears and running off the course

 

I like it, they just need to tweak DRS a bit more so the passes aren't as easy.

They also need to have a separate set(s) of tyres for qualifying. The saving of tyres is going to make qualifying boring again. Plus it's not really fair with the current 3 sessions.

Refuelling is not going to come back any time soon and I don't miss it as long as we still have pit-stops. 4 pit-stops a race might be overkill but 2-3 pit-stops in a race is great.


The BBC/FOM also needs to step up to the plate with coverage. The scrolling updates at the bottom just don't cut it and no one cares about thermal images or spinning camera moves in the pits. We need more information on screen or on live timing. Plus picture and picture when there are passes/pitstops that aren't happening on whatever car they are following.

 

How about applying the ballast rule similar to the BTCC cars?

 

To make F1 more interesting....
1. Forget the DRS...
2. Reduce the front wing by 80% and rear wing by 80%...
3. Tire degradation is good fun...keep it that way.
4. Weight penalty of 25kg for 1st place and 10kg for 2nd, 5kg for 3rd....max weight penalty of 75kg and 3 races... Then it starts over.
5. No launch control, no traction control,

Sit back and enjoy the mayham.

 

The cost of going off track could be made higher without increasing risk. Your point about the driver's being encouraged to make riskier moves is a good one but I think we've gone a bit too far in that direction.

 

LOL..

Ok message understood, I'am a fan of both along with the Matrix..

LOL again..

Great stuff..your nuts..

 

Glad to start your week with a smile.
Now go to work and sell a gnome

 

I am satisfied we are having racing. Too bad no one is doing any upfront to provide passing and or real racing to Vettel. Frankly behind Vettel it was an OK race. Not great but ok based on who's tires were good and who's were approaching the cliff.

We do have a tire war this year. Between cars but not tire makers. DRS is nice but amplifies who has weak tires and who doesnt. The passing crowd was anyone but Seb and Mark for the most part. He, Webber,
had to make up 1 spot and with a .5 better pace and fresh tires he made it back to 2nd.

Two or 3 more races and Vettel is untouchable if he wins. Im sure by then with different winners he could place 2nd or 3rd and take the title.

Ferrari need to get on pole soon. If pace is equal to Red Bull then they need to be on pole and do what Vettel does. Keep the lead at turn 1 and build an 8 sec cushion and with the right strategy hang on to win. Domencali has again said qualy matters. Before he said no.
It matters period.

 

It matters if you make row 1. Any team without that prospect is still better off saving tires for Sunday. Looking at tire usage yesterday confirms that. With upwards of five tire changes an extra set of softs (unless you're MS) is a decided advantage.

 

So Q is about saving the tyres then:

Methinks team mate tactics will have to come in to play to stop this Vettel Bull dozer.

For example pit Button/Massa, to come out in front of Vettel to slow him up, let Alonso/Ham catch him, but it needs to be car that is somewhere near the Redbull in race pace, thus making it very hard for Vettel to pass.

Of course Webber could be the rear guard throwing a spanner in the works.

It is either that, or build a better mouse trap/car.

 

Easier said than done.
The saving grace is that we've seen recently a competitive car can make up a lot of grid positions. Not at Monaco of course. That will be an interesting race. On such a confined course the clagg will be a big issue I fear.

 

Yup easy said than done agreed.

 

Go flog a Gnome

 

Clearly the only thing I'am flogging is a dead horse talking to you..

 

I love DRS. It allows a faster car to pass a slower car in front of him, rather than getting stuck behind lap after lap, with no way to pass. I firmly believe that if this season only had the excitement of the Pirelli tires, it would be another snoozefest. Sure, cars would pass, but only in the pits. Everybody would be too scared to try a big move to pass, at the risk of killing their tires. AS has been said, drivers don't have to make a move on the first lap or be stuck in a train. They can bide their time.

With DRS, drivers know that if they drive smart and fast, and are able to close the gap to the car in front of them, they will have a chance at passing them with DRS. ON the other hand, the driver in front knows that if they save their KERS, they have a chance of blocking the pass.