Are you signed up to be an organ donor?

I'm sure the money you spend on internet connection would do more good going to help people.

 

Huh?

 

Then why not mandate? As long as I have the say so over my body, I say no. I do not 'hate the world', I just don't believe in it.

Yes, I would not accept the liver, I would not want to live that way.

 

Like I said, a real glimpse into people's hearts.

I'm done with this thread.

 

I was being sarcastic. In response to your 'look into people's hearts', it means to what extent? You say to have a good heart you should donate organs, but what about your money, other than what you would use for basic needs, it sure would hlp other people. Wouldn't that be a sign of a good heart? One doesn't need the internet.

 

Well, I received organs from a young kid (16) that was beaten up and brain dead, his family donated his organs and saved the lives of three people. After seven years I just met the family (April 24th) and it made them SO HAPPY to meet me and the man who received his heart. It made them know that they did the right thing. Like many people said, you are dead so why not save the life of somebody else, they donor one day could be saving your like or one of your loved ones. And who cares about the money, besides, you aren't paying for it.How can you put a price on lives. So think about it and become a donor!!!

 

I have already saved people's lives without being an organ donor. I am also the first person who would stop to help someone. Saturday morning I saw a 3-on-1 assault, I stopped my car, got out, and helped the victim, placing myself at risk.

 

I am. Though after all the stuff they pumped into me to go to the war I dont think I qualify anymore.

 

I have watched family and friends go through major medical problems. From onset, through treatment, and to death.

One issue is the meds. Sorry, but I do not want to have to be on drugs to live. Psychologically, I do not want someone else's body part in/on me.

I don't believe in the 'tokens' anyways.

Wouldn't it also be compasionate if everyone donated their (entire) estate to a charity upon their death. I'm sure it would help most of the people who recieved some of it. How about if we all get rid of our toys and send the money to the Red Cross. Compassionate, right?

It is up to the individual to define compassion, whether through religion (or lack of), philosophical, etc.. I believe one can be compassionate without having to donate your organs. Yes, I am religious, but this (organ donation) is a grey area.

If you want to donate, donate. Then have a regulatory agency, based on need (1/2 national, other 1/2 regional). As a hospice, once here, have a hospice type health care that you WILL be a part of (will cover costs-immediate and future). Better regulation of 'brokers'. Also, if you donate, the default status will be 'for benefit', which will be for people 'in need' only. You could elect to donate to 'for profit' (plastic surgery, medical use), where your estate should get a cut.

 

My sister in law got a new liver 12 years ago. Become a donor!

Leslie

 

John,

You are attempting to apply rationalism to a process most people are very emotional about and it won't work. I was mostly being sarcastic in my reply above, however the truth is two fold. First, if some folks want to sell organs, let the owner benefit. Do this pre-death by forming an organization where the willing doner is paid up front a percentage of the value of their organs. Its like insurance, a roll of the dice. If 1 in 1000 people dies and can be harvested, and their organs have a market price of $500k, then that's $500 per person. They could pay out $300 to be a donor and make a great ROI. Then, since they have commercially purchased the organs, they can broker them to whomever they want. Or, there should be a national single (through legislation) organization co-administered by the AMA/Feds that ensures organs are collected fairly and given out at NO COST fairly too. I'd be all for that.

The second part of the truth is most people just don't like the idea of their body getting cut up after death. They picture themselves on the table missing their eyes and parts of skin and with their chest cavity opened and most stuff missing. The thought is repulsive and creepy. You can attempt to apply whatever rationalism you like to that, but most all people are reacting from emotion and won't change their mind.

An effective solution to increasing donor %'s would be to offer payments to donors, OR, ensure beyond all doubt that the parts are never whored for money or profiteered from.



P.S. Uro you're way off the mark IMO.

 

I don't think my liver would be much use after drinking a lot of alky. I would donate but it's pretty much up to other people's preference on if anyone would want to donate or not.

 

I have a fear that being a motorcycle rider that they may rush to judgement and let me go figuring I am expendable and not a good member of society. I would love to help others but I want to be sure everything was done to save my life before I do. How can you ever be sure?

 

Understatement... we've got self-proclaimed Supermen (saved thousands of mortal people's lives while alive) but they won't give up their organs when others desperately need them.

Monetary reasons, concerns about really being dead, etc. Not knocking anyone but this is certainly an interesting thread.

 

Its no question. If Im not gonna be using the organs, give em to someone who will.

 

It does apply. You see, you are only seeing organ donations. I am seeing treatable illnesses that kill thousands daily because they lack basic medical care. Africa, South America, Asia, etc.. So now, you die, you have lived a full life, why wouldn't you show compassion to those in need by donating your financial success?

We already have that welfare system.

Now, here is your next statement to me:

But look at your next post in response to SRT Mike:

Is it rational? Well, you are the one trying to force your views/beliefs on others. The only corresponding legitimacy you are willing to accept is your own.

I have no sympathy for (most of) those people who use 'religious beliefs' as an excuse. Even the Bible says 'there is no hidden knowledge'. Learn to read and think for yourself, don't let someone else do it for you. And yes, I am religious.

When exactly did I say I was 'creeped' out by it? It seems that you are rationalizing by what you believe is your own (and the only correct) corresponding legitimacy.

 

I'm not, but I want to become a doctor (applying this summer for MD programs).