3rd ticket in this month. This is just ridiculous. I think the bay area is trying to survive the recession with ticketing. 1st ticket in ISF: Speeding. I was merging onto the freeway and the guy in the lane I needed to merge into sped up a bit to block me and I couldn't slow down to merge behind because the car behind me was speeding up to freeway speeds too. So I had to punch it to get in front. Cop pulls me over for speeding. WTF. 2nd ticket in ISF: No front/rear plate and no proof of insurance. My car doesn't even have a front plate mount! And I wasn't running rears because I had kids in my neighborhood messing with me so I had them off. I couldn't find my AAA documents in my car when they pulled me over. I think AAA doesn't send this crap out until you pay the full year's amount - I pay monthly. On the ticket, the plate is a fixit, but the insurance isn't a fixit?! 3rd ticket tonight at midnight in my accord: I approach an intersection that's wide open and slow down and turned right. I didn't go to a full stop at the yellow/red light. It's the middle of the freaking night with NO ONE AROUND. Some cop hiding in the bushes in the nearby apartment pulls out and tickets me for running the red light. He tickets me also for no front plates and window tint! WTF. Is choptopper(?) still around?
Having proof of insurance is VC16028: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d07/vc16028.htm and at the bottom it says (about the insurance): "In lieu of the personal appearance, the person may submit by mail to the court written evidence of having had financial responsibility at the time the notice to appear was issued. Upon receipt by the clerk of that written evidence of financial responsibility in a form consistent with Section 16020, further proceedings on the notice to appear for the violation of subdivision (a) shall be dismissed." And this.. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231175504AAMLiQ7 So, that looks like something you could take care of by mail and it doesn't look like a ticket that will hit you with points. I've had a no front plate (on a van) and just brought it into the local PD and whoever was at the front looked out at the car through the window and signed it off. Then I sent in the money. This talks about the cost of fixits this year: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20090129/ai_n31309261/?tag=content;col1 The other tickets.. you should be able to take traffic school for one but will still end up stuck with the other since it was within 18 months. As far as I know, you can still take traffic school online instead of having to sit in a classroom (much better deal).
The only down side is if it happened in Marin. I know from experience they will not honor online traffic school
You admit you were speeding, and you got a speeding ticket. No plates at all, and no proof of insurance in the car? You were just begging for this one. If you make the payments, AAA sends the POI cards. You admit not stopping where you should have, and got a ticket for it. Window tint didn't help. I don't mean to come across as unsympathetic, but if you go speeding through stop signs with no plates, tinted windows, and no proof of insurance, you can expect to be ticketed again, and often.
these painfully will be seen more in this economy: NOW if only they would cite the cell phone users and singles in the HOV lanes, they could balance the budget in two weeks. you might want to PM GCALLO here, as many of us have....he's local too. His front plate mounting system that screws into the towing plug is a god-send. and about < $40. POI should be easy, I carry mine in my wallet, which I photocopied, all my cards, on one sheet, down to a credit card size, and laminated with 'scotch-tape'. Nice solution. um perhaps your stars are aligning, poorly .. sorry to hear this.
Wow! Maybe they changed the requirement. My last ticket was back in 06. Glad to hear they changed their thinking!
I have AAA insurance as well. They actually send you updated cards about a month before your annual renewal is even due, it doesn't matter if you pay monthly or pay the full amout after that. I'd dig through your mail/paperwork, you should already have everything you need from AAA.
They assumed it was better for the environment. My wife had a ticket about a year ago and still had to attend.
They are giving out tickets for just about everything now since money is tight and CA is trying to get every $ from US. I was going on a cruise with Corvette group last month. There were 10 Corvettes in the group and we were on the radio for communication. I was the last Corvette and did not know where I was going so one of the guys suggested that I should be in the middle of the pack. So I pulled pass the last 2 corvettes and they opened up a space for me so I could be the 8th corvette. A CHP saw this and pulled me over. He basically said that he was going at 65mph and he could see that my speed was faster than him therefore I am going faster than 65mps. He doesn't know exactly how much faster I was going but just going faster than the 65mph is speeding. So he gave me a ticket but he gave me a break on no front tag since he saw there was no space to mount one. The CHP told me that they will start to issue no front plate tickets in the future and it will not be a sign off type but will be a fine (however no points). I went to see a Lawyer to see if I should fight the ticket since I only speed up to get into the pack and he said that CA is not letting anyone off. He suggested that I should just go ahead, pay the ticket and take the on line traffic school. He said that he had another customer that received a ticket for 67mph in a 65mph zone, went to court to fight the ticket and lost. So be careful out there now. CA is trying to get as much money out of us as possible and will ticket you for just about anything.
Go to your local police station or doughnut store and ask nicely. When my wife got popped for no front plate when she stupidly parked on the street in San Francisco, I made her do it. I installed the front plate with toggle bolts through the grill. The officer laughed and commented that her husband must be planning to remove the plate again. No comment, but such a device would allow the plate to go on or off in less than five minutes.
Thanks for all the replies. I'm thinking of using zipties for 1 car and double sided tape for the other car in order to mount the front plates. I also called up AAA and they faxed me over my proof of insurance. They just never sent it or it got lost in the mail. I got the notice in the mail for the no front/no insurance. The fix it fine is $50 and if I don't fix it, it's $999! :O
A common enough thing is to get some heavy duty rare earth magnets, epoxy them to a plate holder or the backside of the bumper where the plate would be on the front side. Put a little felt on the back of the plate to keep from scratching. It takes some serious heaving to get the plate off! Pics here: http://home.earthlink.net/~tsitmc/audittinvisiblelicenseplatemount/ Unfortunately the pics are gone, but this link describes the process well. http://forums.audiworld.com/showthread.php?t=1603372 "All that is required are some Neodymium N48 Rare Earth Block Magnets. I used 0.75" x 0.5", and some 5 minutes epoxy. I removed the front plate trim from the car. Very easy to do. Pry the sides towards the center of the car to realease the two side tabs, then pull straight down. I marked the back of the plate where the magnets were to go... Then applied the magnets and epoxied them in place. This was an interesting procedure since Rare Earth Magnets are very, very strong, and even when stuck to the plate they wanted to travel towards eachother until the epoxy cured. If you do this, mix small batches of epoxy and glue the magnets one at a time. Also, since these are very strong, they wanted to stick to everything on my desk..and if they get within ten inches of eachother they will snap together..and from that distance will most likely shatter. So caution is required. Once the epoxy cures, turn turn the plate over and then position the plate filler panel of the plate where you want it. Now you can place the magnets on the back of the filler panel and they will stick in the right location. I gave them a dab of cyanoacralate glue just to hold them in place for the epoxy The paper towel was to prevent the oils in the epoxy from leaving a mark on the painted filler panel. I added a cheap plate frame, and some nylon plate screws. Nylon allowed me to cut the excess on the back easily and won't mare paint if I am careless. I leveled the nylons screws on the back after cutting the excess, and levelled the epoxy on the magnets so it would be flat, then added small felt pads on top of the magnets for paint protection. It is as easy as snapping it on and off... ed4 used similare sized magnets with the same install and the plate held strong upto 140mph..and he had a micro fiber cloth between the plate and filler panel..so for what I need this will be perfect!!! ------------edit------------- As it turns out, the magnets I used were just a hair too thick and the filler panel stuck out about 1/8". While I haven't done it yet, I will probably get smaller magnets for inside the filler panel so the panel sits flush again."
Did you try mounting the front plate on your f355 in this manner. I'd like to know how it turns out for you when you get the smaller magnets.
These days don't give the cops any obvious reasons to shake you down. There are plenty of other people out there that stand out like soar thumbs so it's not too hard to stay under the radar.
From the San Francisco Chronicle today: <snip> As promised, San Francisco parking officials nailed drivers for parking at expired meters on Labor Day, in part, to net some extra cash for the city. One woman called City Insider to report she saw dozens of tickets slapped on windshields on Union Street. Just how many citations were issued on the Monday holiday has yet to be calculated, Judson True, spokesman for the Municipal Transportation Agency, said Tuesday. Fines for failing to plug a meter range from $53 to $63, depending on the neighborhood. The agency, hunting for new revenue, decided earlier this year to help close an escalating deficit in part by enforcing parking restrictions on several holidays that previously had been exempt -- Memorial Day, the Fourth of July, Labor Day and Veteran's Day. Now, drivers are let off the hook just on New Year's Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas, except along the waterfront. Those meters are enforced year-round. <snip>
Accurate assessment. That being said, go to your local P.O. and just ask any officer on duty. They will surely help with any kind of fix-it ticket assuming you are now in compliance. CA is dead broke, and any and all of the LEAs are out solely to generate revenue. That means don't be an idiot, don't do stupid stuff, and don't give them any reason to pull you over. They can and they will. Tuan: that's absolutely absurd. Unfortunately there are enough dumb sheep in this state where these organizations can act in an almost criminal fashion. DPT went from being a $30Mio/annum organization to over $140Mio! Unreal.
California law is specific. The manufacturer, or dealer, MUST provide a way to mount the front plate. Now, while I admit, no one wants holes in the front of their $100 to 300K Ferrari, the laws are the laws. As for POI, the cop was misinformed. Any insurer licensed in California must transmit POI to the DMV MONTHLY. You are no longer requred to carry it in your car. In fact, even if you do carry a card, and the computer doesnt show it up to date, you can still receive a ticket
when I purchased the M3 back in Dec the dealer had a new form to sign. It was along the lines of I know there isn't a front plate on the car and I was OK with it. I guess I can't blame it on the dealer anymore.
Can you collaborate this for me? I can't any confirmation of this, in fact I am seeing the the opposite on the CA DMV website. Jay
In 2006, the California Vehicle Financial Responsibility Law changed the way the Department of Motor Vehicles verifies insurance for privately owned vehicles. Changes were made to ensure that vehicles driven on California roads have liability insurance that provides financial responsibility for any damage or injury caused by a traffic accident, regardless of fault, and to remove uninsured vehicles from the highways. Insurance companies in California are required by law (California Vehicle Code (CVC) §6058) to electronically report private-use vehicle insurance information to DMV. Insurance companies are not required to electronically report information for vehicles covered by commercial or business insurance policies. Customers whose vehicles are covered by this type of policy will be required to submit paper proof of insurance when required for registration renewal and when a vehicle is registered in their name for the first time in California. Law enforcement and court personnel have electronic access to insurance status on DMV records.
I did that with my BMW. They asked me if I wanted the front plate mounted and if I declined I would have to sign a waiver of responsibility for the dealer.