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    This is curious. I took all three of these images but don't recall ever sharing them online. The top picture is in front of my shop in 1992 and the bottom two pictures are from Pebble Beach 1993. I still have the blue ribbon you see in the boot.

    This image is of me in #1001 on the day as the first image you shared.
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    ATS will launch the new GT car at Salon Privé on 31 Aug (in eight days), and I will be there to cover the event. The new car will be on display over the weekend together with the red GTS that was on display at the 2015 Concours of Elegance at Palace of Holyroodhouse in Scotland.
     
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    I hope we can get more info about that long awaited ATS GT. To be honest, I had lost hope.
    I was in correspondence with Daniele Maritan and Gianluca Gregis before they split in acrimony. Then, there was some legal wrangling about who owned the ATS trademark, and I was almost expecting the project to die, although it made it to Monaco once.
    So, it's good news that the berlinetta GT is finally announced. I was surprised to hear than only 12 cars are planned.
     
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    A new ATS was launched sometime ago, apparently based on a 620 McLaren chassis with a 4L McLaren engine.
    More détails soon.
     
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    A McLaren chassis with a McLaren engine... So why is it called ATS ?
     
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    Different design? Different bodywork ? Different interior perhaps ?
    I suspect they are built at McLaren in their MSO department.
    ATS tried to build the cars alone but didn't have the facilities.
    There will be only 12 of them, like the original 2500GT.
    At more than $1M apiece, they will be difficult to sell, IMO.
     
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    No, Franco Scaglione while at Carrozerria Allemano. He also designed the painfully beautiful Alfa 33 Stradale and the BAT cars. The ATS is similar, but in no way identical to the A110. Maybe it's easier to see that if you've seen them in person. Really quite a beautiful car, and better in person I think.
     
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    Hello everyone !
    I recently bought this picture online and I wanted to share it with you.
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    I guess this is #1001 at the 1963 Geneva motor show ?
     
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    Great shot!
    Thanks for sharing. Love the two creases on the nose that blend into the bumper, and those lights, IN the bumper!
     
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    Daniel from France,
    Hello Bernard,
    I've done an exhaustive (maybe!) register of all ATS 2500 GT & GTS existing or destroyed. I done 2 arrays : identified cars, unidentified cars.
    I've made a compilation of informations from magazines, books, websites (thanks for Ferrarichat).
    I just finished updating, so these arrays are still in French, but I'll translate it soon in English.
    I send you these arrays, see 1st attached file. Because size is limited, second array in next message.
     

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    Hi,
    I send you the 2nd file.
     

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    I think he also did the lambo 350Gt, similar design language here and there.

    T33 most beautiful car imo, and so small and light in the flesh.

    Anybody know what these ATS are like to drive.
     
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    The T33 Stradale is one of my favorite cars. Small and beautiful.

    I spent some time in an ATS. It didn't seem to have any bad habits. Drove kind of like a Dino. I've owned 60's sports cars, including a 250PF Cabriolet. They were fun, but none of them drove great. The little v-12 in the Ferrari was the best part of any of them, but I had to drive it on the gravel roads up in the mountains to have any fun in the car (yeah, drifting on the fire roads in a 1960 Ferrari) . I think the 1966 911 I had was the most fun to drive. I took it up the mountain to go skiing at least 5 days a week in college. I would prefer driving it to the ATS.
     
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    I don't think any of the other cars had those features. Does anyone know if the did, or was that a one-off.
     
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    Sounds right, we tend to see the older cars through rose lenses.We also forget that the oter cars on the road were like ford anglias so the capability a hot 60s car needed to be faster than that is less than a minivan today. But then so many moderns have lost that sense of occasion and immersive experience.
    Theres a reason aircooled 911s are such a choice even today.

    I do think a T33 might be a very different 60s experience to the others, if you could get those 4 distributors and carbs all working together long enough.
    Went to the Alfa museum in Arse a few years back, coudnt get enough of the T33. It was the most expesive car you could buy back in the day, and looks worth it if you could get in and out and find suitable roads to play..

    Since renault brought back the A110 sucessfully while keeping the original light ethos I hold out hope for a small light CF T33 maybe powered by a Ducati V4 or two put together. The 4c imo was a multiple miss.

    10 or 20 years ago there was car mooted in Italy that looked a lot like a T33 in Cf with a subaru wrx motor, it never happened though.

    ATS looks like it would have been a "better" dino.
     
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    That is so true. And it's not just cars.

    It's longitudinal v8 is pretty sweet. I've driven Dinos and owned Fiat Dinos with the 2.4 liter out of the Dino. Not the same as the ATS v8
     
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    So true, look at an old castle, even the king lived a hard life.
    Hot bods today, didnt exist in the 30s or even 50s..
    Don't get me started on an e-type.
    Lambo 350Gt I had was pretty excellent on open road though, the IRS worked, brakes not bad, and the motor was an epic screamer, short gearing and power that built past 8k meant it could make mincemeat of a e36 M3 on the highway...
    Countach was crap.
    Im still thinking aT33 on song, 60s autostrada or even grimsell pass now, had to have it all going on.

    Im thinking at a cayam Gt4 and new Alpine A110 are some sort of zenith.
    A lotus elise, everything people liked in an english roadsterr, but with great mid engined handling, more than enough power, blance of forces and stone cold reliable. Crap build though, its english.

    ATS the talent behind it, greatest might have been.
     
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    Well done Daniel, fantastic job !
    Just ask if you need help for the English translation.
     

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