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ATS at auction, Coys Tecnoclassica

Discussion in 'Other Italian' started by Nembo1777, Mar 7, 2012.

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  1. Nembo1777

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  2. MK1044

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    These are nice looking cars. I've never seen one in person. I don't really know much about them. They are rare and I'm not sure how big a following they have.

    Regarding this particular car, I have no idea of the history, degree of originality, etc.. It appears to be an excellent quality restoration.

    Way out of my league financially, but I will star the guesstimates at EUR 450 K winning bid.
     
  3. rdefabri

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    Very nice - but alas, it is out of my league too!
     
  4. velocetwo

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    Great driving cars the rare of the rare. Hope it does well, they have had problems in the past at auction because people just don't know enough about them.
     
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    That rare? Then my estimate of winning bid is probably low.
     
  7. MK1044

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    By the way, didn't ATS campaign an open wheel race car one season?

    Also, I recall that the marque went by the name Serenissima. Maybe that was the S in ATS?
     
  8. Mang

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    I think your estimate is pretty accurate, guessing $700-$800K range perhaps.
     
  9. velocetwo

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    Yes ATS did have a F1 car, but it didn't do well, The company was founded by the same people that walked out on Ferrari. Phil Hill, Chiti, Bizzarrini , Tavoni...


    There was a lot of arguing over how to build the car, one argument between Chiti and Bizzarrini was about what type of engine to build . Chiti wanted a V8 and Bizzarrini a V12. Bizzarrini left, so ATS git the V8.

    Ironically Bizzarrini is then hired by Lamborghini and guess what design Bizzarrini already has notes for ...a V12.
     
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  11. velocetwo

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    Baghetti drove the fastest lap of the race but unfortunately never finished, just like Frescobaldi, both due to engine failure.


    Fastest lap quite an accomplishment, too bad it didn't finish.
     
  12. Ed Niles

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  13. Ed Niles

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    Oops---skip that first pic; not ATS.
     
  14. Ed Niles

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    Sorry; I'd forgotten there is already another thread with my pix.
     
  15. f308jack

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    Ed,

    Your pics are never boring, and they are quite in their place here too.

    The ATS story is quite fascinating, as are the cars themselves. The other thread sort of bled dead, hopefully we'll get some new facts in this one!

    One of the questions I asked in the other thread, and I think was never answered, was who funded them. In some of your pics, quite some stock in parts (castings, if I remember correctly) were shown, pointing in the direction of planned production of some volume.
     
  16. Ed Niles

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    I'm sure the story has been written somewhere, but purely from memory the names of Giorgio Billi and Patino (Tin magnate from South America) come to mind. I seem to recall that there were two "generations" of backers. Sorry, my memory bank is overdrawn.
     
  17. f308jack

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    Thank you, Ed!
     
  18. velocetwo

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    Ed,

    How would you describe the cars handling and performance?
     
  19. olinde

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    So, what is the status of "the 2 models involved in the 1963 crash on the way to Nürburgring, which have never been restored or repaired"? See the Coy's ad.

    Sorry if obvious or discussed elsewhere.
     
  20. velocetwo

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    unrestored.
     
  21. olinde

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    I gathered that.

    Was wondering who owns these and if there are any photos of them in their current state.
     
  22. velocetwo

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    Maybe the Count? I know there was a bunch of engines and parts left over.
     
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    Does anyone know the high bid at the Coy's auction?
     

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