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Attempted Fraud on Ferrariads...how dumb?

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  1. desire308

    desire308 Formula 3

    Oct 19, 2007
    1,433
    Florida
    Full Name:
    Peter W
    I have this posted in the Business Forum but wanted my 308 friends to have a laugh.

    I was contacted by a "Robin Ebony" via email a few weeks ago wanting to purchase one of my models. They sent a number of follow up emails and mailed me 5 moneys orders. They look very real but of course they all show up as cashed and the numbers are no longer valid.
    Here's a copy of the last email:

    "Hello Peter,
    I need an urgent apolgy from you.......ok, I have a reputable name and company to protect cos in my previous emails i have stated it clearly that there are some other items in Idaho that also belongs to me and it had been arranged that the other items would be picked up same time when the shipper would come for the pick up of your Car so as to reduce shipping expenses for me.
    I also made mentioned that i have a capable shipper agent that will take care of the shipment.
    I told you i would have liked to handle the payment aspect myself but i will be relying on the pictures cos i just moved out of state on a Volunteer relief mission to United Kingdom.


    I Urge you to take the payment to your bank or any cashing point and have it cashed, Deduct your $950 for the Car and have the remaining cash sent via western union money transfer to the shipper.
    So that as soon as the shipper the receives the fund to enable him buy his air ticket, prepare the Paper Works, purchase a temporary registration permit tag and offset the bill.

    NOTE............Deduct the Western Union fee from the shipper's fund.


    HERE'S THE SHIPPER'S INFO :

    Name................JOSEPH DAVID
    Address.............CALLE,ALAMEDA DE CAPUCHINOS 3.
    State/City...........MURCIA
    Zip Code.............30002.
    Country...............SPAIN.

    Immediately my shipper receives the excess funds, pick up shall be made within 48hrs of the receipt of the excess funds from the western union outlet around my shipper. i shall ask my shipper to call you on the phone so that both of you can discuss as per the pick up of the item i.e a convenient pick up time and location of the item.

    I am sure from our previous communications, i have the beliefs that all processing regarding the transfer of the funds/pick up arrangement will be done without any delay. I am hopeful and assuming that all excess funds will be transferred shortly so that my shipper can start the necessary shipping arrangement.

    IMMEDIATELY THE TRANSFER IS MADE, PLS PROVIDE ME WITH ALL TRANSFER INFORMATION ( i.e SENDERS FULL NAMES AND RECEIVER NAMES, MTCN #, AMOUNT SENT AFTER WESTERN UNION FEE. etc)

    ITS GOOD DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU.

    YOURS SINCERELY.
    ROBIN."
     
  2. sparta49

    sparta49 F1 Veteran
    Owner

    Mar 3, 2001
    7,804
    LA
    Full Name:
    Frank
    And you didn't do this immediately?, tell him they were lost and to fedex you new money orders, that way he is out some cash for the fedex fees.
     
  3. Badman

    Badman Formula 3

    Mar 4, 2007
    1,116
    Gotham City
    Full Name:
    Bruce Wayne
    I'm surprised anybody still falls for the old excess funds scam. I guess some people must though, if the scammers are still using it. But then, I did have to talk a co-worker down off a Spanish Lottery scam the other day. He was ready to send them all kinds of bank details... <sigh>

    Anybody else enjoy reading 419 Eater? Pretty funny what they can get the stupid scammers to do.
     
  4. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Aug 3, 2002
    6,081
    Southeast USA
    Full Name:
    Mike Charness
    Didn't know about that site (thanks for sharing) but I *have* done the scam-baiting thing a couple of times... lasted for months and was indeed quite entertaining and satisfying.

    Of course, I also always forward the initial "bait" emails to [email protected]
     
  5. Paul_308

    Paul_308 Formula 3

    Mar 12, 2004
    2,345
    These are common scams and known as '910' which is the FBI file name. Most originate in Nigeria where they speak a form of English. Funniest of these was the fellow who agreed to drop the money to an agent in Amsterdam in a location where there were 3 web cams. The scamee which was supposed to be a lovely lady ended up on video as two large dark guys. If you want more info, google '910 scam'.
     
  6. Badman

    Badman Formula 3

    Mar 4, 2007
    1,116
    Gotham City
    Full Name:
    Bruce Wayne
    Close. It's called '419', after Nigerian criminal code Chapter 38, Section 419 - "Obtaining Property by false pretences"
     
  7. Paul_308

    Paul_308 Formula 3

    Mar 12, 2004
    2,345
    I plead senior moment mistype. You is correct. I used to retain a file of the 419 email I received, the following is typical and a fun read:

    I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foriegn remittance department of African Develoment Bank.

    In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of US$18.5 (Eighteen million five hundred thousand US dolloars) in an account that belongs to one of our foriegn customer who died along with his entire family in November 1997 in a plane crash.

    Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless some body applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidlines and laws but unfortunately we learnt that
    all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim.

    It is therefore upon this discovery that I and other officials in my department now decided to make this business proposal to you and release the
    money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill.

    The banking law and guidling here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after six years the money will be transfered into the bank
    treasury as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occassioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a
    Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.

    I agree that 30% of this money will be for you as a foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foriegn account, and 70% would be for me,and
    10% for expenses incure during the transaction (if any)and there after I will visit your country for disbursement according to the percentage
    indicated.

    Therefore, to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation or next of kin of the
    deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location wherein the money will be remitted.

    Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application to fill and send to the bank. I will not fail to bring to
    your notice that this transaction is hitch -free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for
    the transfer.
     
  8. DavidDriver

    DavidDriver F1 Rookie

    May 9, 2006
    4,425
    Grass Valley, CA
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    David Driver
    #8 DavidDriver, Dec 29, 2007
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  9. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Aug 3, 2002
    6,081
    Southeast USA
    Full Name:
    Mike Charness
    (unrelated, but that clown image brings back memories... it was one of the first graphics used to often show off 256-color capability *many* years ago when that was state-of-the-art for pc graphics cards!)
     

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