Attention all judges - what are the correct hose clamps?

HMB-

All of mine are original on my Feb '73 US GT and are marked SERFLEX. They are slot heads.

 

Ron.

What are you planning? National concours competition?

At the local level, there isn't gonna be a judge in attendance who will knock down your score for the wrong clamps.

Nationally, I don't know. I've never seen the score sheet they use.

Maybe Shaughnessy can chime in.

 

We didn't judge down to clamps or screws at FCA PA-NJ events. If we needed to, that might have been a consideration if we had two gold or silver cars to choose from that were otherwise equal, but it never came down to that when I was judging there.

I have a copy of the score sheet somewhere, which is the national standard. If I can find it, I'll post it here as a pdf.

D

 

HMB,

I believe that the SERFLEX clamps, made in France, are the correct and original clamps for later Dinos, at least.
All the clamps on my mostly original -73 US GT are SERFLEX - just as on MarkT´s car. I have never had points taken off for those clamps, and they have never been an issue, even on a national level. The Daytonas produced at the same time also used the SERFLEX clamps for most of their hoses. It would be logical for Ferrari to use the same type on the Dino. Apparently, Miniflex clamps, also made in France, were used on the fuel vapor vent lines from the gas tank on US Daytonas, according to the Daytona Registry. Early Daytonas apparently used the "wire loop" type Angst clamps.

Frankly, I am a bit surprised at T Rutland´s claim that those (very different) clamps are correct for the Dino. That type of clamp is something I associate with a slightly earlier period in Italian cars, say from 1965 to 1969. Could it be that those clamps are correct for the 206, and possibly the L series? I would also be interested to hear if anybody knows for certain. Perhaps Matthias will have some information.

 

Lars-

thanks for you confirmation-- I have owned mine since it was one year old.

 

Ron, Dave,

If you could post a copy of the score sheets, I would appreciate that very much.

By the way, some of the hose clamps on my car were replaced by the PO, but the original looking ones are all Serflex. I've since replaced them on the car with stainless steel ABA clamps, including the excellent Minaba small clips for the petrol and smaller hoses. I've stored the Serflex, just in case.

Many thanks and regards,

Andres

 

Judges will be more experienced at national events. Concourso Italiano is only a medium level event.

Hose clamps are a big deal.
They are hard to acquire and restore.
Not impossible, but probably can not do this task from the comfort of your home.
This attention to detail, seperates the men from the boys.

Fairly warned.

 

Determining the clamps required is as easy as referencing your parts book...if you have one
Ferrari was specific in this regard.

 

Hello Lars,

early Dinos (206 GT) have original the "wire loop" type Angst clamps.
for late Dinos (E-series) Ferrari calls them SERFLEX-MINUS aou discribed.
Seems to be same pattern as with the Daytonas.
If anybody has a source for either type of clamps, please let us know.
Regards Matthias

 

when the change took place is difficult to say...
some few Serflex clamps are also used with 206 GT
I would guess the change to only Serflex was during L-Series...
but I can`t be more precise, very difficult topic...

 

Thanks, Matthias. Makes sense.

HMB, if I were you, I would not put those T Rutlands clamps on my car. I have never seen clamps like that on a Dino. (Of course, I am not claiming that I have seen them all). I think they are just incorrectly labeled on ebay as being for "Ferrari 308 246 Dino". In the text, though, it sounds like the seller is only guessing that they "may" have been used for the Dino:

"New hose clamp set for the1974 - 1979 Carb Ferrari 308. Other 1970s models may also have used these."

 

I have an email into a National Judge asking what would happen at an FCA National event and at a place like Pebble Beach where he has also judged.

I'll report back when I hear from him.

Dave

 

I have made them for 12301 pre-production Daytona

Used on other models 275's, 330's, 365's

$7000 invested in the project, so they aren't cheap

Tell me which sizes you need. please

Thank you

 

so, there ya go, from a guy who has judged at all these levels.

D

 

Serflex still exsists in France.
Unfortuately I don`t speak French.
But all kind of clamps seems to be available for small money.

http://normagroup.com/kunden/norma/ttw.nsf/res/serflex%20040618.pdf/$file/serflex%20040618.pdf

 

Matthias, try: babelfish.com

Regards, Alberto

 

For reference, here are Serflex clamps removed from my Dino prior to storage.
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I'm afraid I don't recall, Ron. I changed over to ABA clamps some time ago, so that is an old file photo.

Except for originality, there is not much going for the Serflex clamps, I feel.

Andres

 

I just removed all of the clamps from the oil breather hoses on European Dino #7580 to replace the 37 year old original hoses and all the clamps but one are Serflex, made in France. In the photo above with the in-line valve, what is the purpose of that hose? Is it a fuel vent hose? Thanks.