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  1. dflett

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    So what is the news on this ... post Cavallino? I thought all would be revealed.
     
  2. geno berns

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    $1.395MM and no more mystery
     
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    The story of the Testa Rossa in a barn Wisconsin has become legend. I wonder if it isn't actually s/n 0614 MDTR, a 500 TR formerly owned by Terry Fox? The car was discovered and sold ages ago, now beautifully restored by DK Engineering.
     
  4. Marcel Massini

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    0614 MDTR was sold by Fox in 1968 already to Bruce Craig Lavacheck of Paradise Valley/AZ. Now beautifully restored since a few years and Best of Show winner of the 11th Annual Salon Privé at Blenheim Palace, UK, on the 3rd September 2016.

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  5. bella-donna

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    #55 bella-donna, Feb 3, 2017
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    TR 0614 from DK is suspect and not all so clear i think.
    dk build a new frame, new body and engine is before in 0650 !?.
    another 0614 - project with original VIN and the original old body is exists.
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  6. Marcel Massini

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    Suggest to provide proof.......

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  7. 375+

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    Marcel, Bruce probably bought the car circa 1978.
     
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    Support your allegations, supply proof.
     
  9. bella-donna

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    thats clear,

    so that no misunderstanding, not said that a replica of dk.
    questionable is how the engine of 0650 back to 0614 and what real old and new material on this perfect and very nice hig glosse tr.
    also why two TR 500 with the same chassis number exist.
    there is exist one more 0614 as project for restoration with a old original body and old frame with 0614 stamp.
    again, no criticism, but legitimate questions about questions
    engine -> Project-1956 Ferrari 500 TR
     
  10. Marcel Massini

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    Proof please.

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  11. bella-donna

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    dear sir,
    you have an appreciation and recognition of me and have respected your activity as a great ferrari-historian.
    question, not know for you thats another 0614 restoration project exist ?
    is the way of the engine 0614 known to them back from chassis # 0650 in dk tr?
    thanks for competent help and information.
     
  12. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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  13. bella-donna

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  14. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Cool picture, looks similar to #0636 from that angle..... To my eyes it looks different to #0614MDTR from the pictures I have seen of the car shown by DK/ Lavachek at Salon Prive. Any experts want to chime in?
     
  15. 500tr

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    There's a huge finders fee out for #0636...
     
  16. Timmmmmmmmmmy

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    Really, will google it.
     
  17. Marcel Massini

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    I understand 0636 MDTR was stolen 9 June 1997, almost exactly twenty years ago (!), from the parking of Hotel D. in Maranello.

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  18. GIOTTO

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    A sad case... Still lost ?
     
  19. bella-donna

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    have 0614 from dk a certificate ?
    way from Engine 0650 -> dk tr ?
     
  20. 500tr

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  21. GIOTTO

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    Thank you. Interesting article. Hope it will reappear one day.
     
  22. Marcel Massini

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    What certificate?
    Pls post photo of chassis number stamping of "your" car (your post #63).
    Thanks.

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  23. bella-donna

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    #73 bella-donna, Feb 6, 2017
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    this project is not my 0614 and not critic on mr. massini !

    also i am interested clarification.
    if you have seen this very authentic old project 0614 and found another perfect car with same number there are legitimate questions and the body from dk-tr0614 is in small details different than old historical pictures.

    what would they think when they see this chassis number and body with old damage provesor repair as on old pictures?

    i have seen the chassis number 0614 on this tr.
    you are invited as a professional to visit and identify this 0614project.

    to the certificate. definite question, dk 0614 has a certification of ferrari?
    concrete question, is known how come the engine of 0650 in dk tr0614 .
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  24. Marcel Massini

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    #74 Marcel Massini, Feb 6, 2017
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    Of course it is well-known that you do not own 0614 MDTR.

    What certificate do you mean? The Ferrari factory Certificate of Authenticity (Red Book) or something else?

    When are you going to post the photo of the chassis number of the car you are talking about?

    As for the invite, thank you very much. Why not? When and where?

    Marcel Massini
     
  25. 500tr

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    "i have seen the chassis number 0614 on this tr.
    you are invited as a professional to visit and identify this 0614project."

    Who is invited?
    I'm interested to see the car in person for sure...
     

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