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Auto e Moto d'Epoca Padova 20.10.2022.

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by miurasv, Oct 20, 2022.

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  1. markus77

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  3. Marcel Massini

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    FYI the plates VA 759677 were issued 22 March 1983.

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  4. Sempre_gilles

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  5. Aardy

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    I doubt very much the Zagato Berlinetta shown at Padova has something to do with the real 0018/M...
     
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  6. Sempre_gilles

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    I agree, unlikely venue to sell such a unique car as 0018 M. Real car not seen in public for a very long time.
     
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  8. Sempre_gilles

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    Found this while searching for "Automobili Tricolore"
     

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  9. dim

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  10. Marcel Massini

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    The replica is using serial number 0061 S.........

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  11. Sempre_gilles

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    Noted. Thank you, Marcel.
     
  12. kare

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    It appears that when 0034M was sold to Spain decades ago, papers were used to make a fake on chassis 0061S. When the fake was scrapped, the frame was used to remake the Zagato Berlinetta. This was so long ago that I don't think photos of the remains of the Vignale body on chassis 0061S from that time exist, so I am not absolutely sure which of the special coupes 0061S originally was.

    There were four Vignale Speciali, chassis number of which I believe to have been 0061S-0065S-0097S-0099S. 0065S is the sole survivor.
     
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  14. kare

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    I fully agree, strong side decorations were clearly a thing in 1950 that quickly passed, 0065S had a spear like chrome decoration. So it would be only natural that when they decided build two more cars (0097S-0099S?) they would use a slightly more modern grille and clean sides. After some pondering upon WHY would they do this while the new "Type 51 Coupe" (0091S) had already been created, I came to think that there may have been a delay in getting the new glassware delivered. They had been using this "fastback" design on Fiat 1400 chassis too (Orchidea Coupe), so maybe they had a few extra rear windows lying around and chose to built two more Type 50 fastbacks to keep Ferrari happy with quick deliveries. Some of it remains a mystery.
     
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  16. PG1964

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    I agree. In early 50s the Italian coachbuilders had strong problems with the glasses. If a new shape was produced for the series production they immediately adopted him. The same happened some years later: you may be surprised to know how many cabriolets have the same windscreen of the Lancia Appia Vignale. Moreover, think about how many cars had the same Cibiè squared headlights in the 60s.
     
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  17. kare

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    I think it was first shown in Padua 2011, at least I got the feeling that the owner saw it there for the first time. After waiting my turn I just had to crack a joke and ask if I can go and sit in it too, receiving a well expected "NO!" as an answer. Had a long chat about the car and it's history and reconstruction after that, a pleasant experience as one can honestly say they have done a very good job.

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