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Autocar 430 full UK roadtest=======

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  1. tonyh

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    Here's the conclusion;


    4.5 /5
    " The 430 is irrestible, whether you're viewing it from the kerb or in the driver's seat. It's surprisingly tractable & usable , comfortable over long distances and quickly inspires confidence..It 's also the 1st Ferrari , certainly in modern times, that feels like it has the depth of mechanical integrity to absorb really hard driving , again & again.Most of all , the 430's searing pace, grip , involvement & soundtrack remind you of what you always hoped a supercar would be.
    Although the slighly disappointing 0-60 MPH time and paucity of mid-range torque deny it a full five star rating , the 430 is perhaps the most exciting high-performance driving machine of the moment, and prob one of the finest Ferraris ever. Accolades don't come much higher than that".
     
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  3. udalmia

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    "hat feels like it has the depth of mechanical integrity to absorb really hard driving , again & again"


    dont they always say that?
     
  4. RMV

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    What were the 'disappointing' 0-60 mph times?
     
  5. tonyh

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    0-60 MPH= 4.4 secs
    0-100 =9.3 secs

    stding qtr mile= 12.6 secs/ 119 mph
    standing km = 22.4/152 mph
    30/70 mph thru gears = 3.4 secs
    30/70 in 4th gear= 6.3 secs
     
  6. RMV

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    Ok..

    Thanks for posting that info.
     
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  8. tonyh

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    483 bhp@ 8500 rpm
    torque 343 lb ft @ 5250 rpm
    specific output 112bhp per ltr
    power to weight 333 bhp per tonne
    torque to weight 237 lb ft per tonne
     
  9. RMV

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    Times are funny things. If they test two-up and with full, or even half tanks, that could explain why the times are slower than other published times... I'm just guessing...
     
  10. asianbond

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    I thought the 430 has 500hp?

    My CS already has 425hp.
     
  11. ghost

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    Tony, where be the link bro?
     
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  13. tonyh

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    Typo- 483 BHP - sorry !

    Vik - no link yet, story's only just out today.
     
  14. Koby

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    this is why evo is the only british car mag I will read... stuff the empty performance figuers and focus on the driving experience. How can "the most exciting high-performance driving machine of the moment, and prob one of the finest Ferraris ever" not be 5/5?
     
  15. zjpj

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    word
     
  16. HoboPie

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    I understand the concept of a ringer, but those times are horrible for a car like that. I don't just mean in comparison to the F40 like quick F430s we've been hearing about, but next to even a 360(non-autocar test).

    It is faster, but not much. I mean, if this is the car they were using in the M5 test I can kind of understand their findings. It's 2 seconds slower to 100mph than in other tests. That's bigger than the difference between an Enzo and F50 or F50 and 360.
     
  17. mw575

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    British auto mag's are notoriously anti-Ferrari.
    No way I believe those performance data.
    Obviously results depend upon who is driving- fuel load- topography of the course-equipment used- ambient temp (lower-faster) and perhaps most of all
    BIASE!
    I have had a 355,360 now a 575MM and have driven my friend's 430.It is easily faster than the aforementioned (and the 575 is reportedly a 4.2 0-60 car)
    I take that report with a salt mine!
     
  18. rossi

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    Can anybody scan the test?
     
  19. Ulmis

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    Nope man , the Brits love Ferrari`s . A lot . Only that at Autocar the editors are.......well....
    Take a look at Evo & TopGear , the best from Europe , if you want to find the real thing about a Ferrari then read those magazines.

    Good info on US based mags : CarAndDriver & Road&Track.
     
  20. rossi

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    I think it's not even specific for Autocar, they did great reports about F-cars in the past. So probably it's only that particular editor (with the BMW-glasses).
     
  21. Ulmis

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    Steve Cropley it`s the Ferrari specialist at Autocar , he should do all the reviews.
     
  22. RMV

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    Without doubt, EVO is one of the best mags available; I like it much better than Autocar. I love Octane also.
     
  23. tonyh

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  24. rossi

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    Link doesn't work. :(
     
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