Autocar Article 599

I've got it. Basically Andrew Frankel drives it and loves it writing that it is the "best production Ferrari for 20 years". He says the gearshift is so fast that he "does not perceive the space between the gears". He claims that it is only 1.5 secs slower around Fiorano than the Enzo. In race mode he writes "it becomes other-worldly"
At the same time Chris Harris is driving a 911 turbo then they contact each other by mobile and compare. The first text that Andrew sends is "Bloody hell this thing looks good" Otherwise the arguement seems to conclude that really both cars are as good as each other (the Porker being faster in bad weather and the Fezza being faster in a straight line) but that the 599 has more....passion and excitement built in, Chris wrote that the Porker although very good "it never feels bespoke, you dont feel special driving it"

Also one thing I noticed that although a smaller car the 911 is 6 kilos heavier. Ok so not much but it is a much smaller car than the 599, Porker indeed!!

 

Thanks for the heads-up!!!

I'm going to buy it......... NOW!

I hope I'll get the article up ASAP

 

Cheers mate I don't have a scanner of my own.
Also Irealised I made a mistake the 911 is 6 kilos lighter but still only 6 kilos for a car that is a lot smaller.....

 

Damn damn damn!!!!

My local store doesn't have it yet!

 

6 kilos heavier??? that doesnt seem right

 

Just 6kg difference between them? that can't be right, what figure did they publish for the weight?

 

I know what you mean the figures are thus:

599GTB: 1579Kg

997TT: 1585Kg

So actually I was right to start with oops..

 

Autoexpress mentionned a 1670 kgs weight or so ?

 

I'll take Autocar over Autoexpress anytime when it comes to figures

 

Wow, that's intersting. Even Ferrari's official figure is 1690.

 

He does like it ????? looool


It`s the best car in it`s class and this by far , it has no competiton whatsoever .

He does like it ???????????? looooooooool

Ohhh and good ol` AUTOCAR test data : 0-62 in 3.9 hehe
The car can actually do it in 3.5, but hey we are used with this kind of info provided by them , just like in the test between F430 vs M5.

We should wait for EVO`s and Road&Track for more ACCURATE & OBJECTIVE articles

Cheers

He does like it ................hehehehe

 

Those performance figures are not Autocars official figures mainly because that was not a road test but a "first drive". Also when they do test it the test wil be more accurate than the other publications mainly because Autocar invented the road test and most of the worlds car makers and publications will use Autocars figures when they have tested something.

 

^^^ then who`s official figures are ?????

Ferrari said 3.7sec for 0-100km/h, and the developer test driver said the car could easliy do it in 3.5sec.

Also the weight released by ferrari is different

 

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Weight must be a typo. Another major point is that Porsche quoted weights are always to EC standard, incl allowance for driver, fuel, luggage etc. Ferrari quotes weight of car with no fuel, no driver, no luggage, so even if the quoted weights are similar, reality is the Porsche would be around 150kg lighter.

 

could someone share the article on a online base; because in switzerland I can`t find the autocar magazin

I heard the sound of black 599 on a show, its amazing, and the car is much more beautiful in live then on every picture that I saw.
I changed my order from a 430 to a 599 because the small pricedifference speaks for the 599, a fully loaded 430 is approx. 40 K USD cheaper then a 599

 

I live in Switzerland too. What is the retail price of a 599? How can it be only 50'000 Sfr. more than an F430? Surely that's for a "bone stock" 599 compared to a "full monty" F430 (with ceramic brakes, etc.). How much is the difference if you compare a fully equipped 599? Surely it must be a lot more, otherwise it'll send F430 sales nosediving and destroy its residuals...

 

its a mix of options thats rigth, but on the other hand the price of 599 now is much more sapid for me thats the point from my side.
Do you think on the other way around

 

Don't know what I would choose, if money was no object the 599 is going to be far more exclusive and I'm sure that it will handle as well as an F430 on top of being much faster in the straights. On the other hand, the F430 offers an unique combination of mid-engined design, lightweight construction and razor-sharp reactivity that make it one of the most entertaining drivers' cars in the world. Ideally I'd like to have both in the garage!

However, since for me money IS an important part of the equation, I would say that probably a new F430 will have a better medium-term depreciation. I expect that if I order an F430 for 240K today it will be worth at least 169K if I sell it in 2-3 years time. I think like all previous 12-cylinders the 599 will suffer more in the beginning: in 2-3 years time a 300K F599 will be worh 190-200K at best, so the loss will be much larger. If you plan to keep your car more than 5 years I think they will both converge and settle between 120 and 150K depending on mileage/color/trim/condition. I give these figures based on examining the Swiss market in the last 5 years.