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Autocar's take on Enzo replacement

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  1. greyboxer

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  2. amenasce

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    What do they mean by Veyron Influence? Power? Price? Weight?....
     
  3. greyboxer

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    I think I (and many of their readers to judge by the comments) fell for a classic 'sell newspapers' headline with absolutely no substance !
     
  4. amenasce

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    I would agree.
     
  5. Napolis

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    What color did your Dad order?

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  6. PaulK

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    I think they were referring to was “Active Aerodynamics."

    But what could really be the case is making a car that has probably around 800hp easy to drive on the street.
     
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    #7 modena1_2003, Apr 18, 2011
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    Obviously Ferrari are going to watch the competition, and if you don't think other manufacturers have taken note of Bugatti's technologies as well, your crazy.

    The idea of a car that can adapt to it's surroundings and performance increases on-road is being finely honed by Ferrari in every new car. So I have naturally high expectations for the Uber horse..
     
  8. modena1_2003

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    I don't consider acitve aero poping a rear wing at speed and lowering the car. This has been done for years. The XJ220's movable front wing, the new Pagani's flaps, to the average but just as relevant Jetta's self-closing nose-slats to reduce drag, this is active aero. I have a feeling that Ferrari have leaned a bit more than Bugatti about building exotic cars go around a track, so I have a little more faith their aerodynamics will be superior to an air-brake.

    Koenigsegg made 900 easy to drive in traffic with a clutch, so I have no worries about this new car having any difficulty driving an hour and a half to the track.
     
  9. of2worlds

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    Jim, no mystery with Peter Kalikow though; I bet he orders a blue one!
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    James, he hasn't yet. But if he does, it will be red. Are you getting one?
     
  11. Ferrari FXX

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    Going in the total opposite direction. The Veyron is heavy fat bloated gas guzzling expensive machine. The successor will be light weight, sleek, fuel effecient and expensive.
     
  12. Mr. Francesco

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    I don't seem surprised by anything mentioned in this article. I think majority of us are expecting a TT V8 engine. The main unanswered questions that I would like to know is what will its size/weight be and if it will be an FR or AWD (very unlikely) platform or will it continue to be an RMR platform?
     
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    These days if I want something I build it myself.

    :)
     
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    Props man.
     
  15. amenasce

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    Let me rephrase then, are you thinking of using one for a new project? :).
     
  16. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    P5/6 based on the Enzo replacement?! :)
     
  17. modena1_2003

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    ...sweet Jesus that would be amazing.
     
  18. Chicko

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    Don't you mean you "re-cloth it yourself" ;)
     
  19. Ferrari FXX

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    Is anyone else skeptical about these articles?

    http://wot.motortrend.com/next-ferrari-enzo-bugatti-veyron-69689.html

    This is another one by motor trend. It just doesn't sound like Ferrari to go after top speed records. When they say go after Veyroni I hope they mean acceleration and cornering. I could care less if the Enzo's successor does 250 mph.

    I read another article that claimed the successor will look something similiar to the Veyron. I'm thinking PLEASE GOD NO.

    Anyone else skeptical?
     
  20. Napolis

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    Nope. We totally re engineer the cars we build. Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina has over 200 unique parts/systems and P 4/5 Competizione has even more and if we race at Le Mans next year will have further modifications.

    Ferrari P 4/5 by Pininfarina is significantly lighter and faster than an Enzo both in a straight line, VAMX, and around a track.

    I have no personal knowledge as to which one is more of a ***** magnet.
     
  21. mclarenferrari

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    There have been so many new supercar usurpers since the Enzo debuted that Ferrari might want the Enzo successor to be the be-all and end-all of all hypercars, like the F40 was when it came out in 1987.

    I really doubt it will resemble the Veyron, at least not superficially. Ferdinand Piech gave his engineers a picture of the concept Veyron, and tasked them to build a hypercar with 1000+ HP and a W16 engine. Ferrari will be working with a clean sheet design, and a twin turbo V8 set up would probably be more efficient and purposeful than a huge W16 (which required a lot of radiators, which in turn added tons of weight).

    If small manufacturers with no racing experience (Koenigsegg, SSC) can beat the Veyron in terms of top speed, I'm sure Ferrari could do it as well.
     
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    Lend me the keys and i'll find out :D

    PS : dont tell my wife !
     
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    What is to stop Ferrari from using a supercharger for the V8 instead of the old 'twin turbo' solution to more power? Does the GTO-F40 heritage force them in the twin turbo direction? The use of a V8 would imply a version of the new 458 motor with some exotic bits hung on it...
    Which engineering solution is more efficient?
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  24. mclarenferrari

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    That's a really good question, and I don't know why they're not considering a supercharger. But they are going by a twin turbo setup, if Amedeo Felisa is to be believed (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/10/ferrari-ceo-back-to-twin-turbo-v8-for-next-gen-enzo/). It could be for historical affinity, like you mentioned.
     
  25. REALZEUS

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    Actually turbocharging is much more efficient than supercharging. That said, I prefer a normally aspirated V12 screammer any day of the week!!! ;)
     

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