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Aviation Incidents from Kathryn's Report

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  1. Wade

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    "A judge ordered Busch to give blood, urine or other bodily fluid samples. No charges have been filed as of Wednesday."

    Not defending the guy but the "third" type of sample is a questionable order in this case.
     
  2. toggie

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    Are they referring to saliva? ... sperm? ... contact lens solution?

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  3. Wade

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    ;)

    Yeah, it would be easier if they just specified saliva testing.
     
  4. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    Failed soft field landing. Looks like he came in slow tried to keep the nose high to early, and right wing stalled about about 15 feet.
    Sucks
     
  6. jcurry

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    Looks like it has Flint tip tanks. If it had Robertson STOL as well it would have a very low stall speed and mushy break. But in full landing configuration it would also be very far on the backside of the power curve, and near impossible to recover from at low altitude even with application of power. If he hadn't drifted, and then tried to correct, he probably would have just suffered with a big bounce or three.

    He just got too slow. Spectators lining the runway, and hey, watch how little runway I use ........
     
  7. Bob Parks

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    You are one of the few people that have mentioned the Robertson STOL kit. Made a big improvement to the Cessna's that had it. I worked with Harl Bracken when he was doing kit drawings for that.
     
  8. jcurry

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    Really enjoyed it on my U206 amphib. Pretty neat to see the ailerons droop at the higher flap settings. Could TO&L at 55 kts on the water.
     
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  11. Bob Parks

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    It appears to me that it did have the STOL kit. The leading edge of the wing where it was broken shows the cusp and large radius of the leading edge. It also looks like it in the aft photo, left wing leading edge. Not sure about the aileron droop.
     
  12. donv

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    This was a big deal 30 years ago when I got my helicopter rating in an R-22. The Robinsons simply don't tolerate zero g or negative g, period. It's not unsafe, you just need to respect the limitations of the aircraft, just like any other aircraft.

    The big issue in Robinsons historically was engine failure due to carb icing, and while that's gotten better, it's still an issue. Another thing is simply the volume of training which takes place in them-- training leads to more accidents.
     
  13. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    #115 Juan-Manuel Fantango, Jul 30, 2017
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    Dumb question, is that a trim tab on the left? There is nothing on the right to indicate to me it is an elevator? In the picture just as he lifted off it is in this same position, just wondering if this is normal. What a terrible thing to have happen. All the fun that Oshkosh is, and they end up like this. We watched the Mooneys land in mass a few years ago. One hit a Oshkosh truck and totaled the plane. With that many planes coming in there's bound to be a few incidences. So sorry for them.
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  14. Juan-Manuel Fantango

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    Found this in the comment section under Kathryn's report

    Anonymous said...
    That is normal for a renegade trim tab on take off. I have over 1000 hrs in Lakes and you need that nose up trim, especially with 3 people on board. I noticed the flaps more than anything, they are up. Flaps have to be down for take off.
     
  15. Island Time

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    that whole thing looks kind of strange

    it may have stalled after it got out of ground effect?
     
  16. NYC Fred

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    What?

    No hookers?

    Lightweight.
     
  17. Jeff Kennedy

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    His history does include 2 dead girlfriends. Car accident with him driving and a drug overdose at his home.

    To say that his personal history is checkered would be a severe understatement.

    I want to know when the FAA permanently pulls his ticket and if they are investigating the doctor that issued his medical.
     
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    The late Bernie Little originally had a handshake agreement in 1963 with August Busch III to sponsor his "Miss Budweiser" hydroplane; there was never, to my knowledge, a written contract. When Busch III passed the torch to Busch IV, the agreement continued until Bernie's death in 2003. Busch allowed the sponsorship to transfer to Bernie's son Joe Little, who ran the team for another couple of years but, probably under pressure from the financial people, then pulled the plug and that was the end of "Miss Budweiser". It's amazing, though, that the handshake agreement (which did involve a substantial amount of money annually) did last for some 40 years.
     
  19. donv

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    I have to wonder if his wife was the one who called the cops.
     
  20. Ryan S.

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    Living that GTA life lol....

    Does he still get free beer?
     
  21. Jeff Kennedy

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    Probably every time he threatens to go into AB they send him some.
     
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  23. TexasF355F1

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    Probably Busch Light. :D
     

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