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  1. jgonzalesm6

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  3. DF1

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    Yes!!! Great to see pre-race thread!!!!!!!!! :)
     
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    Mercedes: No immediate answers for "weak" W12 rear end
    By: Luke Smith
    Mar 18, 2021, 8:46 AM
    Mercedes says it had no immediate answers for what caused the rear-end of its W12 Formula 1 car to be so unstable through pre-season testing, calling it "weak".



    Speaking about the rear-end issues with the W12 car in Mercedes' testing debrief video, chief strategist James Vowles revealed there were no immediate answers as to what was causing the problems.

    "It was pretty evident from that, that the car was handling poorly, and conversely the Red Bull in fact was a very stable car especially through the last sector of the lap," Vowles explained.

    "I think that's a fair observation. It was visible to the outside and I would say the laptimes mirrored that as well.

    "But it's also fair to say that we don't have answers as we are sat here now, it is just 24 hours after the end of the test. Huge amounts of data available to us and now a long journey ahead to try and understand what was causing that."
     
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    Has toto prepared his post Q3 speech yet? "Vell, zis is very unexpected...ve ver sure ve vere ze underdogs und to be beaten by ze teams, even Williams, so ze 1-2 is entirely unexpected, ja"
     
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    So tired of this.
    Just hope for a competitive Red Bull to entertain the Sunday afternoon :rolleyes:
     
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    Touche.
     
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    Vettel: Steering tricky to adapt to in Aston Martin F1 switch
    By: Jon Noble
    Mar 19, 2021, 9:43 AM
    Sebastian Vettel says getting to know his Aston Martin Formula 1 team better, and getting on top of its steering characteristics, are two areas he needs to improve most.

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/vettel-steering-tricky-adapt-aston-martin-f1-switch/5800818/

    The four-time champion has switched Formula 1 squads this year, moving from Ferrari to the rebranded Aston Martin outfit that has taken over from Racing Point.

    After his first official public outing with the team during pre-season testing at Bahrain last weekend, Vettel has highlighted the key areas where he feels there are gains still to be made.

    “It's just getting to know the people, as it's one thing to understand what they mean, obviously, and lots of different things to talk about the car," he said.

    “On the car, the steering feels different, because it's a different unit. Obviously every F1 car has power steering, but every power steering is set-up slightly differently, and it gives you a different impression because ultimately, when you drive, you have the wheel in your hands and that's the feedback you get."

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    One of the other challenges Vettel has faced is adapting to a completely different car concept, with the Aston Martin a low rake car compared to the high rake concepts he has previously raced with at Red Bull and Ferrari.

    It means he has a much bigger learning curve to go through, as well as adapting to the Mercedes power unit for the first time.

    “The car has a different philosophy,” he said. “It's a different team, it's a different car so it drives a bit differently. It wants to be driven differently, and with a different power unit.

    “Without going into detail, because I don't think it's fair to compare in public, but naturally these things are different and take a bit of getting used to.

    “It's a different environment inside the car as well, just in terms of the comfort. The pedals are feeling a bit different and the seat is a little bit different. So it’s small stuff, but it's the cumulative effect of all those things put together.”


    While Vettel does not want to get involved in comparing the different Aston Martin car concept, he says it has been a fascinating experience for him trying something new out.

    “It's been very interesting to me, let's put it that way,” he said. “It's not like there's only one thing. It's not like you have a high rake car and you just drop the rake and you are in a Mercedes, and you are in a Mercedes and you increase the rake and you drive a Red Bull. It's not like that. It's much, much more complex. There's a lot more elements that have to come together.”
     
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    BTW, check the wheelbase: 146”—that’s as long as some full size cube vans!
     
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    Surely that's not accurate? 146"?

    For what it's worth...a rolls royce phantom is shorter than that...a Ford Excursion is shorter than that!


    Just checked. It is accurate. Wtf!
     
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  16. Mitch Alsup

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    Put one of these monsters across from a 1985 F1 car !!
     
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    Short version:

    Don't be surprised when i start spinning this pos.;)
     
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    Or when Stroll goes to Q3 and I stay in Q2...
     
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    You didn’t realize that? That’s one of the big reasons cars can’t go 2-3 wide without running off the track.
     
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    No I was fully aware that they're pretty damn large, but actual wheelbase longer than a rolls royce phantom, I didn't look at it that way before.
     
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    Combine this size of car with totally electric propulsion and we get a winner!:eek:;)
    F2004 was the perfect combo to my eyes.
     
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    LOL

    Yes 2004 was perfection, Though most beautiful IMO where the cars from the early to mid 90s.
     
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    Agree
    The Willams FW14B and McLaren MP4/6 were just everything we love about Formula one.
     
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    nahh, it's a thing of age, the 640 and 641 are a lot more beautifull!!!
     
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    Last I checked the 641 was from the early 90s:D:D:p
     
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    Different era but the 1990 Ferrari was really nice indeed !
    The 5 valves/ cylinder V12 was a piece of art too.
     
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