Ban Imperial from F1 Section

What a freaking tool.
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You got my vote

 

I actually like him because of his loyalty to Ferrari. But lately, yeah, some of his posts are childish. One Fchat member I really did not like was Matteo, who seemed to be nothing but a sarcastic person from a casual view. But after viewing some of his posts: his eagerness to encourage other people in the most mundane topics, and his understanding that he might be posting too much, I respect him as he knows when he goes overboard. Its great to see those we have some doubts upon actually lose their over-confidence and "look at the chaos I create" image and alter their public opinion so that they don't rub people the wrong way. I think Matteo has done this positive change numerous times and today I respect him and love to read his funny shots at his friends as much as I do reading his serious opinion of a particular dealer.

The fact that a few people are now calling Imperial out I think he will shape up and change. Those that show a true eagerness to promote a collective admiration for the auto manufacturer we all love should not be crucified so quickly. I have faith in Imperial, ( like I have seen in others I thought would never change, ) that he will take a step back on how his posts are being taken and make steps to limit them to something less chaotic and useful.

RocketBoy

 

I must agree with RocketBoy. There's plenty of folks to ban on this chat forum - why single out one person because of their loyalty?!?

Keep posting Imperial!!

Carol

 

As a moderator of this forum I could ban Imperial on grounds of trolling behavior. I always hate to step in and moderate posts or even ban users. After all we have freedom of speech. What I don't tolerate is name calling, abusive language and sexual context. I'm more forgiving on trolling behavior. Imperial's constant claims about the "mickey mouse rules" are starting to reach the troll level. Hopefully he'll calm down a bit.

OTOH I tend to look at some posts by anybody on here as their part in the FChat soap opera: I'll always consider Eddie Irvine as the greatest driver of all times, whether that makes any sense or not. It is just my duty...


And in a similar way Imperial has to always predict a Ferrari 1-2 win for any race, even if Minardi stands a better chance of doing that.

In short: I don't want to feed into a lynch mob mentality here and I'm certain Imperial (like anybody else) will get the message of when enough is enough.

 

I think both Imperial and Senna1994 need to check out the 200+ pages of the Bikini thread as they both need to calm down and "see the sights"....

 

What bikini thread? where?

 

Aisle 9: In between the "Are Lambos cooler than Ferraris?" and the "Fish shaped license plates with after markets logo carpets" thread section.

 

While i agree with most of your statement, imperial goes too far with his disrespect of Senna. He has many fans on this forum and many of us take offense when he says something stupid like Senna killed himself. That's where this feeling is coming from. No one could care less who he roots for but when he says things like that, it annoys everyone.

 

Understood.

 

Ok i'll be there in a second. And probably there for the rest of the day....

 

Yes!

EDIT: Ferrari 1 - 2 Nurburgring!

 

If anything at all, Imperial is just a real die-hard Tifosi, nothing more and nothing less. I for one, do not see what the problem is with him wanting to think that Ferrari will finish 1-2 in any race, if he does not think they will win, why bother watching, why even bother bring a fan. There is nothing wrong with believing in the team you support will win, regardless what the reality is.

PS: For those of you that follow NBA, when the Lakers, Celtics or the Bulls were beating the heck out of everyone, did you ever bother to watch the games even know that they are not the teams you support? In fact, why even going through the playoffs, why not just have the Spurs play against the Pistons right now, one game to determine who is going to be the Champ. Because anything can happen, The Suns may be down now, but they are not out yet and the Heat can still beat the Pistons and meet either the Suns or the Spurs for the finals.

 

With all due respect, I have seen your posts. While you are a Senna fan, Imperial is a M.Schumacher fan. You go to the extrems to defend Senna just as he did to defend MS and Ferrari. While you find his loyalty to them annoying and even offensive, others may easily make the same claim with your posts. Case in point, you feel the need to defend how great Senna would have been if he lived etc., tell me, how realistic is that? You get frustrated talking about your driver when others do not agree with you, what makes you think that Imperial doesn't.

F1 is about pushing the evenlop, both men and machines. Drivers have been known to push it too far because they wanted to win, and thus unfortunately, had to pay for the consequences of it. Senna was a great driver and a fierce, even ruthless competitor, what makes you think that he can do no wrong??!! Telementries collected can only tell what happen to the car and what he was trying to do to save him and the car, but it will never tell you what was going through his head before and during the impact. Unless you have so special technics or ungodly power that normal human do not possess, everything anyone said or claim is pure speculation, or an educated guess.

In a way, Senna did get himself killed, he got in the car, took the risk of driving a F1 car with the desire to win. A risk that all drivers knew existed and are willing to take for one reason or another. It all depends on your point of view, and you have yours, Imperial has his, Andrea has his and I have mine. If you think that we should all think like you and agree with you, then perhaps you should be the one that gets baned, not Imperial.

 

I never once said that we should all think alike, there would then be no point to this forum. Everyone goes out of thier way to defend who they favor. That being said if you would read the posts you'd realise that I never put into question Schumacher's skills or abilty. He is one of the greats no question. But when someone seems to make such crass statements as imperial and for no other reason than to get a negative reaction, there is when the ban him sentiments come out. If i ever said anything anti MS it's in reaction to a stupid comment imperial made. No one has ever said Senna could do no wrong but once again there is no proof either way that he lost control of the car on his own and had no failure. Where, I and other take exception is when some is talking like they know for sure and don't use reason in their arguements and claim to have an inside source and do not. Once again if you ever took the time to read the posts you'd see I always said, nobody knows for sure and if they do they aren't talking. Imperial speaks with no real knowledge and tries to pass it off as truth. This is where we have our problems with him. As far as talking about how great anyone could have been it's called a debate and that sir is the whole point to this forum. If you don't get that then maybe you should be banned.

 

I tend to find Imperial's comments very crass at times, but he keeps cheering for the red team even if they are in the doldrums. I think at a time like this it is heartwarming to realize that we support the red team no matter what.

 

Just as my post seems to hit a nerve with you, did you ever think perhaps he was responding in a similar way to your posts? Honestly, I am not sure how many of us really understands 100% what other are saying on the posts. Fact is, we all get a little worked up and defensive when reading a post that has been directed to us. You are saying that I did not read you posts correctly, maybe or maybe I read into it too much, just like anyone of us here on the forum has the potential of doing. In the "Greatest driver" thread, everyone was pretty much up in arms and some are getting ready to start a brawl and cyber-punch someone through the LCD screen. Everyone is citing facts and figures that backs their driver, myself included, and the funny thing is, which I kept on trying to point out is that this so call debate is purely for fun, and that people should stop taking it so seriously as none of it can be proved. At the same time, no one will ever be able to change someone else's mind about their beloved driver, as in PSK will forever be a Prost fan and you will forever back Senna as the greatest ever. But the fact remains, you defended Senna to the end and cited points after points just everyone else did.

My point is, I do not feel that Imperial did anything more than others that visits this forum regularly. It is true that I do not have the time nor the interest to read over every single threads that are started here, so I may have missed something that all of the sudden makes Imperial Public enemy #1, so please, direct me to the post that started this whole thing. As for this witch hunt, we all have a reason to be baned from this forum, one reason or another. Andrea and I disagree on the tyre issue, PSK and I disagree on some other issues too, and God knows how many others do not agree with me on some of my views on today's F1, and if these are the reasons to ban someone, then please, by all means, do me the favorite and ban me too, I am sure that my wife will be very happy with that decision.

 

Bad choice of words.

 

There's the whole issue in a nutshell, you could be having a mature, rational debate they he will go and say something uncalled for. This is the issue with him. Many times everything will be just fine and he'll start his BS. Saying someone, anyone killed themselves, unless they commited suicide, is just disrespectful. I would have a problem with him saying this about any driver, or person, not just Senna. I am learning to disregard him but it's not easy. As far as who the greatest driver is, who the hell knows. But this is what makes the debate fun. Or annoying..

 

Take that statement for only what it is, instead of reading into it too much.

 

Can somebody here explain us non English spoken natives what "being a TOOL" means in this context.

Does it mean "manipulative"?

Thanks.

- Julio.

 

A tool is like an idiot or someone who says stupid things.