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  1. davehelms

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    The vapor blasting of the body started yesterday and should be finished this evening. A long arduous process, what was found under the numerous layers of undercoating was actually better than I expected to find. Done right the old type undercoat does fairly well at protecting from the elements, done wrong it is exceptionally good at keeping those same elements held tight on the sheet metal, that with predictable results.

    No matter, a little bit of rust in an area is dealt with in the same manner as a fair bit, it all needs to be cut out with new metal panels fabricated and properly installed, regardless of the extent. With everything back to clean bare steel, the process is straight forward and simple.

    Given the thickness of the numerous layers of undercoating, it must have been a Bi Annual ritual for Joe. Much as he lived life, "good intentions" sometimes had positive results, and sometimes not so much. Attention to the finite details was not Joe's strong suit, so much to do and so many squirrels...

    With a batch of plating going out for the Flare Dino and a Daytona Coupe, all of the stripped 330 nickel plated control and steering arms were included in those batches. Good evidence that Joe spent his time doing undercoating and not suspension work, the original factory paint marks were still in place.
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    I haven't visited the Vintage forum in at least six months. Something in the back of my mind just told me it'd been too long and I should pop back in.
     
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    J, so many years of drivel and no work getting done, damn sure its about time some hands get dirty!

    Travis, Deegee and "Lawn Dart" (ex Airborne.. the name he answers to being quite appropriate) took on the challenge of dustless blasting Joe's pride and joy and the Dino that is its new stall mate, this last week.

    Used Ferrari Salesmen used to hold the title of the 'World's Greatest Liar's'... a closer look and you will find they are simply apprentice students to Colorado broadcast weather people! The perky Midwest blonde on channel 4 promised us all that we would see a break in the weather and have mid 40's to mid 50 degree temps all week. Not ideal by any stretch, at least that is warm enough to wheel out the two cars, lay down 2 semi tarps and carry out the blasting process in the back lot.

    All best made plans, what should only take some 3-4 hours per car... well there is also the first year 911 front bonnet we need stripped, the Alfa Montreal differential that sure would help going bare metal before tear down, a set of GTE springs that would be easier to blast outside than in the cramped cabinet, the 5 Fiat Dino Spider wheels that need something more aggressive than our Vapor Blaster to cut through the Chromate primer... lets play big spenders and rent the industrial compressor for a whole week so we are not rushed.

    Icicles hanging off both cars in the 20 degree weather, Lawn Dart soaked from head to toe, our best made plans didn't take into effect the untold layers of undercoating Joe laid on the 330... or the unimaginably tough skim coat used on the 246 Dino! The wish was for the most gentle blasting system using very fine crushed glass to be used where panel warping is not a concern... that wish holding true until day 4 in the freezing weather... at which point we were ready to change out to steel shot to get these damn things done!


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    soooo much to do - and so little time :)
     
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    Isn't so TJ....!

    The body filler front and center on the nose... Joe dropped something on it near vertically. The filler in the RF apron, he also tried to move something with that, just a slow speed push in with no wrinkles.

    Storing this car in the cave under the house, surrounded by heavy building supplies, that didn't work out so well in the end.

    Both extremely simple to dolly out, all the access in the world... quick and easy was Joe's MO, slap some filler on it and 'it' goes away
     
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    Dave, great to see you back with your continuing story. This thread is the best thing on F-Chat. Hope to hear more of your adventures and further restoration of Joe's car.

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    Sorry about the hiatus, Life... the unpredictable turns and twists, the challenges and at times unimaginable heart break, got in the way of us Living for a time....

    Joe's car(S) are still with us and continue to make progress. Slowly until recently, the 330 finally has legs and will be pushed through to the end. Now we can finally progress on the subject at hand and try to cut back on drivel completely unrelated to the car... almost. It is about the cars... and Joe and we still have to retire one more car to close out that subject

    Joe's Lexus... yah, that incredibly fine vehicle is still with us, kind of. When Joe no longer had the ability to drive that fine vehicle, being 'Shoemaker Dave', I gave it to Kris to drive!

    By the time Joe was done with the Lexus there wasn't a straight panel on it, the roof included. This IS the car that when parked in a Walmart parking lot, always has an empty parking spot on any side of it, even when the choice front row spot is happened upon. One quick glance at the condition of the body says "Run, don't even think of parking next to this, this fool just doesn't care!". Of course the casual observer doesn't know the whole side story of those hard earned battle scars.. so Kris gets the unearned credit... and the side glance looks that come with it, I think its priceless but she fails to see the humor in it. A few months away from 39 years of marriage... and Kris finally owns a Lexus... Yup, as our own FC Dickard said, "you still got it Dave, that is one lucky girl!".

    Mechanics cars come in two styles, either they are some of the finest things on the road or... they make due for the time being, at least until something falls off. Kris, some 40K miles later, and completely without due cause, suggested an upgrade might be justified when in the middle of the night, on the goat trail road up to Jenni's house in our valley, the left front wheel separated from the Lexus, went over the cliff and stopped in a tree some 600 feet below.

    Washboard gravel roads now measuring near 13" from peak to valley, they finally decided to loosen and shear off the lug bolts and eject the front wheel. Every off road racer knows that with enough speed, you can hit only the tops of the washboard and the ride smoothens out quite nicely... but Kris doesn't fancy herself as an off road racer, or right seat navigator, albeit barked out directions have come from that area of the interior. My moment in time diagnosis of a blow front strut was quickly proven wrong when the wheel departed over the cliff.

    What does one do with a 250K+ Lexus with the LF fender showing a slight scar, now having 4 lug bolts holding the front wheel on, one that your loving wife no longer fully trusts on the back roads, regardless of my assurances the 5th lug bolt is just a 'belt and spenders' thing? You give it to your Daughter of course, her truck sheared the rear shock off on those same roads and she needed reliable transportation! Yup, still got it... in more ways than one
     
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    Just plodding through the long winded task of reversing time now.

    Nothing terribly exciting but it is a mood raiser when there is a table full of freshly powder coated and newly nickel plated pieces now awaiting reassembly.

    The Aerospace machine shop next door was cleaning out their materials room and had a wide selection of 962 bearing bronze heading for the recycling bin. It seemed only fitting that the old fiber bushings being removed, get upgraded to a new bearing bronze that is quite easily machined and honed to fit. Joe being the master of 'make it work', he would have wanted it no other way

    Travis loathes the day I picked up a post WWII Sunnen hone for this wonderful task of final fit finish honing. A machinists apron was intended to keep small lathe shavings and the occasional splash of honing oil off ones work uniform. By the time Travis finishes a set of cylinder liners or king pins, drip pans are needed under the apron hook. Just one of those precious little "why should I tell him" moments when he finally realized he could turn down the honing oil flow rate from that of a power washer, to a smooth trickle.
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