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  1. thecarreaper

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    #1 thecarreaper, May 27, 2005
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    My best friends father, who is like family to me has to sell his Barret .50 thanks to California's new state law banning them. i have a C&R FFL, which is usless with post 1950 era firearms. i have made arrangements to have the rifle and the ( rare) Barret backpack shipped here to Georgia to a licensed FFl dealer to be sold. the rifle has a very low serial number and has less than 100 rounds through it. it will be a couple of weeks before its here in Ga, but my friends father is here visiting in Ga this week and i thought i would try to help him sell it. i am getting nothing out of this, and i cannot buy a rifle that retails for $7500 ! serious offers , advice and discussion are welcome.

    pic is one i found on the net, i can take pics when the rifle gets here. once its here the dealer will surely charge a small fee for his time.
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  2. Kds

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    That is one sweet puppy !!! Seriously........wish I had the spare change.

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    Tell your friend I will trade him 1,000 British knives for it that he can hand out in the ghettos of Kalifornia.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60890
     
  3. thecarreaper

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    yea me too......... i even have a safe place to shoot it (friends property) but its worth around $6500 + .... too much for a gun :) my next and last rifle i will buy is a Springfield M1A.
     
  4. judge4re

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    I'll probably regret asking this, but are there any restrictions on buying it?
     
  5. TexasMike

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    Not in the U.S. Except for California of course.

    It's hard to find a safe place to shoot them unless you have some private land. Most ranges aren't built for a .50 cal.
    The only restrictions I know about are for shipping them.
    You have to have a Federal Firearms License to ship it or you have to have it shipped by someone with a FFL.

    BTW, just about anyone can get a FFL.

    If you want a .50 caliber, a Barret is the one to get. It's the same one that the military snipers use.
     
  6. thecarreaper

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    correct. there are no FEDERAL laws banning or restricting the .50, just Kali's law banning all .50 cal anything, including black powder firearms !!! if anyone is interested we can have it shipped from the dealer here to any other dealer in the USA, except California. the dealer said he will only charge a $25.00 fee for using him for the transfer. if it goes on his autcuion / web site then there is a 10% fee that will be paid by Charlie, my friends father. my FFL is for older guns made before 1950 so i cant use my license. i prefer old guns, old cars and old guitars, go figure!

    this Barret is a semi auto magazine fed .50 cal. talk about fun!!!!
     
  7. ronr

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    If you already own a .50 BMG in Kalifornia, you do not have to sell it. It does have to be registered.

    If he is selling it only because of this ban, he needs to check with somebody out there that knows what they're talking about.
     
  8. thecarreaper

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    he was told he must sell it or it will be confiscated. there was a period in which he could have registered it, but he is an older gentleman and his health has not been as good as it could be. i guess he missed the January 1 2005 deadline. the rifle has not been out of the safe in over 8 years, and he forgot about it. now he wants it gone, out of state to either myself or his son, to get it away from the folks in the state. he is a semi famous drag racer from the 60's and is known around his community as a bit of a celebrity. i will ask him again to be sure, but i am almost positive he must get rid of it.
     
  9. David_S

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    Yeah, what you said. And he has until April 30, 2006 to get it registered, so there shouldn't be any hurry to sell in in any case.
     
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    ill let him know, perhaps he may be thinning out the collection ?? thanks, Michael
     
  11. Artherd

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    If he has had it for 8+ years, then it is probally the standard detachable-mag version of the M82-A1.

    As such, it is not actually the .50BMG that is the problem, but it is the pistol-type grip!!!

    I **** you not, a $10,000 enthusiest rifle weighing 30lbs is now a FELONY!

    There are two CA laws at work here:

    This is a biggie, and this is the reason he must either at once remove it from the state, or face prosecution ( :( :( :( )

    There is also a more RECENT law that bans the NEW SALE OR TRANSFER of a .50BMG gun. This only affects guns that shoot exactly the .50BMG cartridge, and it is specific down to overall legenth, etc. The .50DTC EURPO for instance (which is a .50BMG shortened by 2mm) is STILL FULLY LEGAL!!!

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    NOTE THE LAST LINE, A .50BMG THAT WAS LAWFULLY POSESSED BEFORE 1//1/2005 CAN STILL BE REGISTERED!!!!

    THE REGISTRATION DEADLINE IS NOT UNTILL APRIL 30, 2006!!!

    Here's the kicker, Barrett has made a CA-ASSAULT-WEAPON-LEGAL modification to the M82-A1 that retains the magazine. Instead of droping free, it simply piviots down. This makes loading a little comical, but other than that, it makes the gun CA legal! HE COULD HAVE THE FACTORY MOD HIS RIFLE ACCORDINGLY AND KEEP IT IN THE STATE!


    Second note; if he's had it that long and not shot it, maybe he should get rid of it, what a pity!@ :)




    I know all this, because I am proud owner of Barrett Firearms M82-A1 CA version #99 of 100. It is my absolute favourite gun :)
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    Hi Art...My daughter Susan went to Shooting Man on the Black Rock desert last May and got to fire a few rounds through someones .50 cal. at small propane cyls. was wondering if that was you?
     
  13. thecarreaper

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    cool post Artherd, i spoke with him today and he wants it gone. we will have it here in a week or so and see if the dealer can auction it. his health could be better so i gues he wants out. if i could get it, i would, but i am trying to get another car or 2 in the very near future........
     
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    Very cool. I have always wanted one but for now I won't pay more then $2,000.00 for any of my firearms.
    Hopefully I can get one before they ban them everywhere.
     
  15. Artherd

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    Not me, but I always bring plenty of 'plinking' ammo and invite anyone who wants to shoot it to do so. Recoil is a bit less than a 12-gauge, you just have to make sure it's in your shoulder, and that you're clear of the scope. (3.5" eye relief, good thing, as the gun moves a full inch toward me under recoil.) The BIG GRIN that graces everyone who tries it is my favourite!

    Mike- get it man (this one might be a good deal too.) What a gun, there's nothing else quite like it. Even bolt-action .50s can't compare.

    Being able to put 2 1/10th pound slugs in the air at 1000meters is just awesome. And with a BC of ~1, wind dosen't really affect the .50 much.

    And then if you do the math, with 750gr AMAX bullets, you have a twinge over a FULL POUND of lead to be flung with a full mag.

    The Barrett is way way way cheaper than therapy! I couldn't really afford mine when I bought it, I'd actually rather have waited another year or so. However, as I live in CA, I literally had only one chance in my life to own one, and I am very very glad I took it!

    If any of you guys ever are in the northern SF bay area, look me up!
    -Ben.
     
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    Why don't you offer it for sale to the armed forces, so they could use it in Iraq or Afghanistan?
     
  17. lionsfan54

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    ah yes, now I remember why I'm a proud NRA member. Dopes like the ones that run California remind me to send in my dues every year.

    Amazing that they ban those guns but I bet you can count on one hand the number of times someone's actually carried out any crime with one.

    Something tells me that "Joe criminal" doesn't have the money for one of those...
     
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    There was an April deadline for registration (boy, do I hate typing that word...). I don't know what the rules are now that that deadline has passed. If you just want to check out your options, check out this board. Many good experts and people in the industry.

    http://www.biggerhammer.net/barrett/wwwboard/

    It's a real shame what's happening with these rifles. Criminals have nothing to do with them, just dedicated shooting enthusiasts. Don't get me started....

    Good luck with your friend's situation. I'd love to help out, but I'm already fixed up.
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    This thing has SERIOUS power. Ben and I went shooting with it today, and it drilled through solid steel like it was butter. We were also shooting a 30" thick log at an angle, and the round went through it and kicked up a huge cloud in the ground beyond that. AWESOME power.
     
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    Hey RR, when can we go plinking? :)
     
  21. thecarreaper

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    thanks RON and others, he understands now that he can keep it. but he wants it sold anyway, along with a few others that his son and i are hoping to buy from him. i cant swing the $$$ for the Barret, but the other firearms are affordable. i get the feeling he is thinning out the collection due to health reasons. he had a real Cobra back in the day, and still has LOTS of rare Ford parts. :)
     
  22. Artherd

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    Just so nobody in CA panics, the deadline for PURCHASE has passed, it was 1/1/2005.

    But the deadline for REGISTRATION has not yet happened, it is APRIL 30, TWO THOUSAND AND SIX!

    :)

    PS: Nice AR-50, I also have it's little brother, an AR-30 in .338LM. Great benchrest quality guns for 1/4 the price.

    PPS: That tree had it coming! What he didn't tell you was that the round exited *sideways* and cut a 6' swath in the ground where it hit. Also left an exit cavity I could just about get my fist into. Ouch.
    .50BMG, the difference between 'cover' and just 'concealment' :)


    -Ben.
     
  23. tvrfreak

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    Ben, we gotta line up some bricks and check it's concrete-busting capabilities next. I am guessing the round will go at least 5 bricks deep. Lengthwise.

    :)
     
  24. ronr

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    Good call, you are correct. Registration ends 30 April 2006. At that time, confiscation will begin, if unregistered. Something really wrong with this picture. I'll never live in Kalifornia.

    http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/50bmgfaqs.htm
     
  25. Artherd

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    Completely assinine, I couldn't agree more. It's not like I am going to take my $10,000 5-foot long, 35 pound rifle, and go hold up a 7-11 with it. At $4.50 a round I'm likely to loose money if I had to use it!

    I was explaining the gun laws today to a friend of mine, specifically about how Barrett had to permanantly hinge the magazine such that it dosen't remove from the gun and dosen't even swing very far.

    And that if it somehow fell/broke off, that I would be in posession of an unregistered ASSAULT WEAPON, a Felony charge with a 4, 6, or 10 year jail sentence.

    If a screw falls out of a perfectly legal piece of metal. Just that, I don't have to wave it around irresponsibly or actually commit a crime with it.

    Complete hogwash.


    Oh, turns out he's also guilty of posessing a .50BMG (which carries the exact same FELONY charge and 4,6, 10 year jail time) if I so much as "leave the vicinity" of my weapon when he's shooting.

    Is the "vacinity" 5 feet? 100 feet? A thousand yards? A mile? When does my friend get more jail time than a rapist?


    Anyone (even huge anti-gun people) think this is right? What's next, 30 years in jail if you are more than 6 feet away from your infant at any time?

    Why do we have all these obscure laws to catch unsuspecting, and law-abiding, people on?
     

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