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Battery Drains-Storage Longevity When Parked w/Desire of Starting On Next Use

Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by Paul_308, Nov 5, 2010.

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  1. Paul_308

    Paul_308 Formula 3

    Mar 12, 2004
    2,345
    This is a monthly topic in some form or other...what is a tolerable circuit drain on car batteries vs time. Not everyone uses or is able to use tenders/trickle chargers. I found this info in a recent GM publication and I find it universal and sound measured against 60 years of sulfuric acid eating holes in my pants. So, for those who like numbers to reinforce their behavior around car batteries and generally trying to relate parasitic drains to how long a battery would last on a parked vehicle.

    "The Reserve Capacity (RC) rating multiplied by 0.6 gives the approximate available ampere-hours (AH) from full charge to complete rundown. Somewhere between full charge and complete rundown, the battery will reach a point at which it can no longer start the engine, although it may still operate some of the electrical accessories.

    Using up about 40% of the total available AH will usually take a fully-charged battery to a no-start condition at moderate temperatures of 25°C (77°F). Put another way, for a typical battery in a storage situation, depleting the available AH by 20 to 30 AH will result in a no-start condition.

    Important - If the battery begins storage at 90% of full charge, reduce the available AH accordingly.

    The recommendation for maximum parasitic drain is around 30 mA (0.030 amp). A typical drain today actually falls into the 7-12 mA range, even though some vehicles do approach the maximum. Multiply the drain (in amps) by the time (in hours) the battery sits without being recharged. The result is the amount of AH consumed by the parasitic drain. The actual drain may be small, but over time the battery grows steadily weaker.

    Here's an example: a vehicle with a 30 mA drain and a fully-charged 70 RC battery will last 23 days. But if that battery is at only 65% of full charge (green dot barely visible), it is going to last only 15 days before causing a no-start.

    Effects of Temperature on a Standing Battery
    The parasitic drain will be fairly constant over a range of temperatures. The important temperature is that of the vehicle at the time a start is attempted. Colder temperature raises the threshold of a no-start by increasing the residual power needed. When the temperature falls to 0°C (32°F), the battery will be able to put out only about 85% of its normally available starting power, and the engine may need as much as 165% of the usual power to start.

    The combined effect of these two factors is to reduce the number of days the battery can stand with a parasitic drain. At 0°C (32°F), the battery can stand only half as long as it could at 25°C (77°F). And at -19°C (0°F), the standing days are reduced to one-fourth.

    Temperatures above the moderate climate of 25°C (77°F) increase the battery's internal self discharge. If the battery is in a locale where the temperature is averaging 32°C (90°F), an additional 5% to 10% of the available ampere-hours will be lost in a month due to self-discharge within the battery. At temperatures below the moderate range, self-discharge will be low enough to be negligible compared to the parasitic loss.

    Discharged batteries can freeze at temperatures as high as 0°C (32°F), causing permanent damage. Other permanent damage may result from allowing batteries to stand discharged for extended periods.

    To alleviate this condition, the negative battery cable should be disconnected on vehicles which are not going to be in service within a 20 day period, beginning from the time the vehicle is shipped. If this is not possible, batteries should be recharged periodically, every 20-45 days, until the green eye is visible."

    Disconnected batteries will slowly discharge, especially with higher temperatures; therefore, even disconnected batteries should be checked every four months and recharged if necessary.

    Recap ************** Several pertinent points are the recommended parasitic drain of 30Ma (recommended max) drain will result in 3 weeks to no-start condition. 30Ma is unnecessarily high. as 7-10Ma can be reached with a little effort. And it is important to reach full charge before leaving car set idle.
     
  2. 166&456

    166&456 Formula 3

    Jul 13, 2010
    1,723
    Amsterdam
    It is important not to let car batteries go below 80% charge, especially not for more than a few hours/days. Only marine or RV batteries can stand deeper discharges.

    If you have 0.03A of drain on the battery that leaves you with 15 days of idle before a recharge on the average battery (55Ah).

    Personally I use the disconnect switch or disconnect the battery whenever I can on a vehicle that is idled. I don't use or charge batteries during the winter period (late October till late March), and I leave them in all of my cars (typically 3-4 cars idled in wintertime). I do make sure they're fully charged when going into the winter period.
    This approach leaves me with a battery life of approximately 5-8 years - if I were to use trickle chargers I might do better but I am lazy as well as worried about having multiple of those little devices hooked up while unattended, and 5-8 years is certainly good enough for me :). I don't care for brands, I purchase them off the pallet at the local autostore.
     

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