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  1. toggie

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    #1 toggie, Mar 17, 2013
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    Lots of crashes lately.
    Beechcraft Premier I jet crashes - 2 dead on board, 2 injured on board, 2 dead in the homes it hit in crash.

    Indiana jet crash: Four killed as private plane smashed into South Bend neighborhood | Mail Online

    A private jet has crashed into an Indiana neighborhood and killed four people, including two on the ground, this evening after experiencing mechanical problems.
    The Beechcraft Premier I twin-jet was landing at South Bend Regional Airport after a flight from Tulsa, Oklahoma, when it plummeted to earth and plowed through two houses before coming to rest upside-down in the middle of a third.

    The plane is owned by Tulsa businessman Wes Caves. Caves' wife answered the phone at their home on Sunday and said, 'I think he's dead,' before hanging up.
    Four people were aboard the plane at the time. Two were killed. Two were injured, Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Roland Herwig told MailOnline.

    Additionally, two other people on the ground were killed at the aircraft slammed into homes in a neighborhood near the airport.
    WNDU-TV reports that a total of three people have been taken to the hospital, all with non-life-threatening injuries.

    The plane is registered to 7700 Enterprises of Montana LLC in Helena, Montana. The company is owned by Caves and does business as DigiCut Systems in Tulsa. It makes window film and paint overlay for automobiles.

    Herwig, the FAA spokesman, says there was 'an indication of a mechanical problem.'
    The neighborhood has been evacuated because of a gas leak.

    Neighborhood resident Stan Klaybor says the aircraft clipped the top of one house, heavily damaged a second, and came to rest upside-down against a third. He says one resident hasn't been seen.
    Neighbors tell WSBT-TV that at least one of the homes had children in it when the jet crashed. Their safety has not been confirmed.

    The six-seat private jet took off from Richard Lloyd Jones Jr. Airport in Tulsa, Oklahoma, earlier this afternoon.
    The Beechcraft Premier I sells for between $2million and $6million and has a top speed of 530mph.
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  2. CavalloRosso

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    #2 CavalloRosso, Mar 17, 2013
    Man, what is going on with Beech Premiers recently?
     
  3. Tcar

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    #3 Tcar, Mar 17, 2013
    Many reports of it being upside-down above the picture showing that its clearly right-side up...

    Cutting edge reporting...

    No fire is good... no fuel????
     
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    #4 nizam, Mar 17, 2013
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    I'll say. If you searched on the incident, each reporting agency quotes different numbers of injured and/or dead.

    This one takes the cake: "Deadly learjet crash near South Bend Airport." (lowercase 'l' for "learjet" as in article headline) It's clearly a Premier, and not a Lear.
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  5. snj5

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    #5 snj5, Mar 17, 2013
    Maybe it's just me, but the treatment of the wife really impacted me as classless.
     
  6. GuyIncognito

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    #6 GuyIncognito, Mar 18, 2013
    I agree. shameful.
     
  7. ChipG

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    #7 ChipG, Mar 18, 2013
    I have never seen a jet crash into a house and the house not burn down.
     
  8. toggie

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    #8 toggie, Mar 18, 2013
    I noticed that too in the news article.
    There was no need to put her fearful response in the news story.
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  9. solofast

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    #9 solofast, Mar 18, 2013
    One account on the news (for what it is worth) said that there was a large amount of jet fuel spilled at the scene. If so they were extremely lucky not to have caught fire. But as good as reporting is these days you can't be sure, could just as well have been fuel exhaustion.
     
  10. Chupacabra

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    #10 Chupacabra, Mar 18, 2013
    Nope, that pretty much made me sick and enraged me simultaneously.
     
  11. Tcar

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    #11 Tcar, Mar 18, 2013

    Many news reporters have zero conscience.

    Zero.
     
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    #12 Gatorrari, Mar 18, 2013
    Ex-Oklahoma QB killed in plane crash in Indiana

    SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — A University of Oklahoma official says the starting quarterback for Oklahoma's national championship teams in 1974 and 1975 is one of two men killed when a small plane slammed into a house in northern Indiana.

    St. Joseph County Coroner Randy Magdalinski identified the victims of Sunday's crash as 60-year-old Steven Davis and 58-year-old Wesley Caves, both of Tulsa, Okla.

    The OU official confirms that Davis is a former Sooners star. He spoke on condition of anonymity because the school has not yet announced his death.

    Davis went 32-1-1 as the Sooners' starter from 1973 to 1975 and started every game of Barry Switzer's first three seasons as head coach.

    Caves owned the plane. It was not immediately clear if Caves was piloting when the plane crashed in South Bend.
     
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    #13 donv, Mar 18, 2013
    That's three Premiers in the last couple of weeks... not good. And no manufacturer support to fall back on if there is an issue requiring an AD.
     
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    #14 Rifledriver, Mar 18, 2013
    Even fewer have a brain.
     
  15. solofast

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    #15 solofast, Mar 18, 2013
    No doubt. I'm totally fed up with so called "reporters" stuffing a microphone in the face of somebody who has suffered through a terrible situation, loss of their home in a disaster or a loved one, and asking them for their reactions. For God's sake, these people have just suffered a terrible loss, I don't want to see or hear their reactions. Let them grieve in peace.

    Same thing with people who are indicted, going and knocking on their door and asking them to comment, how dumb it that??? Do they really think they are going to want to talk to to some idiot with a camera??

    This isn't journalism, it's sensationalism at its worst.
     
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    #16 cheesey, Mar 18, 2013
    what gets me as much as anything is the reporters don't have a clue about what they are talking about, leading to complete misinformation, they want to sound intelligent by hanging on to some aircraft nomenclature or argot and get it totally wrong
     
  17. Tcar

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    #17 Tcar, Mar 18, 2013
    I'm often surprised that so many people, not just reporters, call ALL small 2 engine jets LEARJETS.

    The word is like Kleenex to them...
     
  18. Simon^2

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    #18 Simon^2, Mar 18, 2013
    Or Q-Tips.
     
  19. Bob Parks

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    #19 Bob Parks, Mar 18, 2013
    That happened shortly after the Boeing 707 went into service in Europe. In a short time all jet transports were called " 707's"
     
  20. solofast

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    #20 solofast, Mar 18, 2013
    That's because they WERE all 707's...
     
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    #21 Bob Parks, Mar 18, 2013
    I think that there were other jets then,too, like the DC-8 and some British and French products. Everything that was a jet transport at that time was generically called a "707" as I remember.
     
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    #22 Tcar, Mar 18, 2013
    I remember that, too... in fact when I was young I remember my Dad that saying "we're flying a 707" when Mom asked if we'd be on a jet.

    The plane was actually a DC-8.

    He knew what a 707 was, but a DC-8... Nope.
     
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    #23 jcurry, Mar 19, 2013
    NTSB Eyes Malfunction in Beech Premier Crash | Flying Magazine
     
  24. CavalloRosso

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    #24 CavalloRosso, Mar 19, 2013
    Agreed.

    That's actually four accidents in the last six months. There was a non-fatal in india in September. That's not good for a fleet of less than 300 aircraft.

    You could probably get quite a deal on a 390 right now!
     

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