Bentley considers the Veyron engine for the next-gen Arnage

waste of a good engine

they should drop it in a nice lightweight sportster & watch it leave the VeySchlong in its taillights

 

no, they should put the motor in the hall of fame for "how to overcomplicate things"

A simple twin turbo good ol american V8 can yeild the same results for a fraction of the price and joe smoe can work on it in his garage (including power, reliability, drivability etc.) Shoot, you can get that out of a BBC on pump gas N/A but it wont be as good on the roads...

 

There is so much more to it than that.

1000hp turbo V8's are nothing new and nothing special.


Putting that in a car, giving it a warranty, and making it able to run at max RPM for enough time to get above 250mph and be a smooth and comfortable daily driver. IMO the "its nothing special" comments are like the difference between a guy who can bench 350lbs and a guy who says "thats nothing, give me a winch and I can move 500lbs!". Not impressive.

 

for what it is its fine. Its a different, more complicated and more expensive way of doing something that could have been done much more reasoably...


Its like going thru med school to become a construction worker... whys that more impressive?

To me impressive motors = low weight, low cost, simple and effective. Just cause its more complicated and expensive means its a good idea?

 

Just because some guy can strap a turbo on his engine does not mean that's all that a large multibillion dollar corporation needs to do.

If billy-boy blows 'er up he goes to the local Cooters and gets it bored or maybe re-sleeved. That's not an option in a Veyron.

Plus, all the cars that were souped up to 1000hp I've ever experienced were not even close to the Veyron in overall performance. The Veyron is a car that could be driven to the store, for a comfortable Sunday drive, or all out for max speed. Sorry, but no pieced together car with a turbo on it is going to come close to achieving that.

If it were that easy, how come there has not been a single production car that has ever come even remotely close? Do you figure the best and brightest engineers at these companies are not as smart as some guy with a Garrett catalog?

 

If a multibillion dollar company wanted to they would. You know why they dont? its certainly not because they cant, its that the buyers need sixteen cylinders and four turbos to justify the price tag.

Its the F430 vs C6z06 turned up a notch... the $12k consumer price motor in the z06 is better in everyway but sound depending on opinion but if ferrari teamed up with GM and put a LS7 in there and sold it for 25% less would poeple still buy it? or would they convince themselves the ferrari motor is better cause its OHV and revs a bit more though produces less?

why is that a good thing?

 

the arnage has essentially the same engine it had when it was first introduced, and bentley has been toying around with the basic engine layout since the 50's or 60's, iirc. the veyron engine is over doing it i think, however a more powerful 12 cylinder engine would be a nice added amenity for the new body style. but i don't think vw really wants to go through the headaches of trying to get the veyron engine compatible with their bentley line.

 

Who the hell would want to spend a million bucks and get a run of the mill twin turbo chevy V8 that you could buy from a parts catalogue, you write some of the most clueless things, get a clue seriously. Bugatti spent years developing that thing so it would pass stringent emmisions tests, last for 20 years and be completely docile and driveable with a warranty. Do you really think Bugatti is going to risk the future of its whole brand and image on a Chevy crate motor. Do you really think the kind of clients purchasing a low volume million dollar exotic like the Veyron are going to want the kind of engine you are suggesting and please dont even compare the kind of aura and excitement you get from driving the likes of the F430 to the LS7. Impressive motors = high cost for the most part. By your logic a Formula 1 motor isnt impressive as it sure as hell isnt low cost and simple.

 

Yeah when Bugatti was designing their engineering marvel car im sure they were keeping in mind that some of their clients would want to change a headgasket in their own garage, because they dont have better things to do, like running billion dollar corporations

 

So because i cant (regardless of if i would or not) fix it that means its better?


for michanical things simpler = better assuming everything else is the same. How many of those billon dollar corperations buy more expensive more complicated machinery that doesnt add to output? doesnt make much sense does it?

 

First of all with a TT BBC you could probably cut the price in 1/2. And they could still meet emmissions etc. Not probably not from parts from Jegs, but its deffinitly possible.

Bugattis brand image is overcomplicating and "oooo aaaahs". Thats working out great for them, just like ferrari and most other exotic brands. Doesnt mean it makes sense. I guess it does for the company so they can sell them. But for a consumer dont you feel a bit silly about buying something SOOOOO expensive for no reason?


And they dont NEED to use a chevy motor. But a simple big cube OHV motor does just as good as their 16 cylinder quad turbo monstrosity. Then stick a bug badge on it and call it a day. Why didnt they do that? "ooooo ahhhh" $$$$$



so by your definition if you plated a old chevy small block in gold, platinum, and diamonds and wrapped it in the mona lisa it would be the best motor ever no?

F1 motors are impressive cause their light, and work very well with the light cars theyre in. A similer HP SBC wouldnt work as well. But a good ol turboed BBC would work just as well as the bugs.