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  1. alessiogiorgio

    alessiogiorgio Karting

    Nov 24, 2007
    139
    Italy - Sweden
    Full Name:
    alessio giorgio
    yes I have made these roads it is really an wonderful experience !!!
    I can sugggest another in north Italy from Sestri Levante to Parma through the 100 crosses Pass, 200 km. across the Appennini with 3000 corners....
    Ciao
    Alex
     
  2. Finance1Jose

    Finance1Jose Rookie
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    Oct 3, 2009
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    #77 Finance1Jose, Dec 26, 2009
    Last edited: Dec 26, 2009
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast

    -- Canada --

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics.
    5) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - www.icefieldsparkway.ca


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  3. bounty

    bounty F1 Veteran

    Feb 18, 2006
    7,769
    San Diego, CA
    I can't say I quite agree, but...

    "...When Theodore Roosevelt visited Peoria on October 10, 1910, he called Grand View Drive the "World's Most Beautiful Drive."
     
  4. f1karting

    f1karting Karting

    Jul 19, 2006
    235
    BC Canada
    Full Name:
    Jan H
    Any way we can make this a sticky thread? thx Jan
     
  5. f1karting

    f1karting Karting

    Jul 19, 2006
    235
    BC Canada
    Full Name:
    Jan H
    Please tell me more about these roads.

    On my 'bucket list', I want to rent an F-car of some sort and do a serious road trip in Italy. This section seems just what I am looking for. What is the best time of year? best route? and where can one rent a Ferrari for a week. Jan
     
  6. ishan4488

    ishan4488 Formula Junior

    Feb 8, 2009
    332
    Bangalore, India
    Full Name:
    Ishan Rastogi
    Khardung La Pass - India,
    It's world's highest motorable Pass.
    Have a look at few pics.

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2660.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2864.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2898.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2649.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2902.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2740.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2762.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2780.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2814.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2818.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2828.JPG

    http://kiranc.com/albums/20060925-Khardung%20La/DSC_2830.JPG

    http://www.travelblog.org/Photos/1481300.html


    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast

    -- Canada --

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics.
    5) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - www.icefieldsparkway.ca


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.
    6) Khardung La Pass

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  7. rosso dino

    rosso dino Karting

    Mar 5, 2009
    194
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino
    21) Spain: Marbella - Ronda (great road and not so far (about 180 km) from Nº 15)

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast

    -- Canada --

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics.
    5) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - www.icefieldsparkway.ca


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  8. Eldo In The Weeds

    Mar 20, 2008
    37
  9. porscheracer01

    porscheracer01 Formula Junior

    Mar 16, 2008
    721
    Parkslope
    Full Name:
    DD
    My top 3:

    1) Nice to Monaco
    2) San Francisco to LA via Pacific Coast Highway
    3) NYC West side highway to Sawmill Parkway
     
  10. f1karting

    f1karting Karting

    Jul 19, 2006
    235
    BC Canada
    Full Name:
    Jan H
    #85 f1karting, Jan 6, 2010
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2010
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino
    21) Spain: Marbella - Ronda (great road and not so far (about 180 km) from Nº 15)

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast

    -- Canada -- **updated 2010/01/05**

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics. Lots of radar traps
    5) Hwy99 from Whistler to Lillooet BC: known as Duffy Lake Road.
    6) Kootenay Lake road from Crawford Bay to Creston BC
    7) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - www.icefieldsparkway.ca


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  11. effer

    effer Formula Junior

    Jan 6, 2004
    814
    near Montréal
    Full Name:
    François R.
    Canada

    Cabot Trail - Nova Scotia
     
  12. f1karting

    f1karting Karting

    Jul 19, 2006
    235
    BC Canada
    Full Name:
    Jan H
    bump.. in anticipation of the upcoming driving season... :)
     
  13. scubamike

    scubamike Formula Junior

    Nov 7, 2010
    323
    In the south
    There is one here listed under "OTHER USA : 1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)".

    This one deserves a bit more in explanation. It's also called The Tail of the Dragon.

    http://www.tailofthedragon.com/

    It's a road with 318 curves in 11 miles of driving. It's one place where you can really test the handling abilities of your F car without taking it to the track. It's also perfect for a motorcycle ride as well.

    If you are in the Western NC area, you just have to hit this road and the Cherohala Skyway.

    You'll be sweating when you're done!
     
  14. ScuderiaWithStickPlease

    ScuderiaWithStickPlease F1 World Champ

    Dec 17, 2007
    10,263
    NY Metro
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy3b6pEroJw]The greatest driving road in the world? | evo TV - YouTube[/ame]

    He reviews two great roads in this clip.
     
  15. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Nov 29, 2009
    23,090
    Honolulu
    Full Name:
    Kevin
    Threads like this just kill me.
     
  16. Quadcammer

    Quadcammer Formula Junior

    Jun 29, 2005
    500
    Clifton, NJ
    Full Name:
    Oliver
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino
    21) Spain: Marbella - Ronda (great road and not so far (about 180 km) from Nº 15)

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast
    15) NY- Tiorati brook road, route 106, arden valley road, parts of 7 lakes drive (bear mountain and harriman state park)
    16) NY- Storm King mountain highway


    -- Canada -- **updated 2010/01/05**

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics. Lots of radar traps
    5) Hwy99 from Whistler to Lillooet BC: known as Duffy Lake Road.
    6) Kootenay Lake road from Crawford Bay to Creston BC
    7) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - Icefields Parkway


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  17. Ferrari-F1

    Ferrari-F1 Karting

    Jul 12, 2013
    238
    Southern California
    1. the road you own
    2. the runway you own/rent
    3. a track

    I like to keep my cars in SoCal where I trust the roads are clean and safe.
     
  18. OldSlowpoke

    OldSlowpoke Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2012
    491
    Longmont, CO
    Full Name:
    Bill
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino
    21) Spain: Marbella - Ronda (great road and not so far (about 180 km) from Nº 15)

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast
    15) NY- Tiorati brook road, route 106, arden valley road, parts of 7 lakes drive (bear mountain and harriman state park)
    16) NY- Storm King mountain highway

    -- Canada -- **updated 2010/01/05**

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics. Lots of radar traps
    5) Hwy99 from Whistler to Lillooet BC: known as Duffy Lake Road.
    6) Kootenay Lake road from Crawford Bay to Creston BC
    7) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - Icefields Parkway


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania

    -- New Zealand --

    1) The Crown Range Highway from Queenstown to Wanaka.
     
  19. Ingenere

    Ingenere F1 Veteran
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Dec 11, 2001
    6,344
    On the Limit
    Full Name:
    Dino
    Added 89A from Sedona, AZ to Flagstaff, as 89A from Wickenburg, AZ to Prescott, AZ. Also 191 (formerly 666) from Alpine, AZ to Morenci, AZ.

    In CA...... Topanga Canyon is brilliant
     
  20. Glassman

    Glassman F1 World Champ
    Rossa Subscribed Silver Subscribed

    A really good one is the Bear Tooth Highway into Yellowstone park, Montana side. Rizzi took an F40 there and the driver was hooked up to all kinds of monitoring equipment. The results were interesting.......the lady monitoring at one point explained that the driver was reaching a state of great excitement.
     
  21. showme1946

    showme1946 Karting

    Oct 9, 2011
    78
    Columbia, Missouri
    Full Name:
    George Rickerson
    I've been fortunate to drive on some amazing roads all over the U.S. and in Italy, but I have to say that the county roads (lettered roads) in Missouri, especially in mid-Missouri and southeast Missouri, are the most exciting, entertaining, scenic, stimulating roads that I have ever driven. And they are well maintained, for the most part.

    George.
     
  22. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Feb 25, 2009
    28,802
    North Qld
    Full Name:
    simon klein
    I'm not telling anyone where some of Aussie's best(fast) driving roads are,Moretti knows where they are,from Brisbane to Melbourne over 2 days......unbelievable.

    If you're over here,I'd be happy for a (quick) tour,though.
     
  23. wahoo5

    wahoo5 Karting

    Nov 9, 2009
    182
    Richmond, VA
    Full Name:
    David
    -- Europe --

    1) Davos - Stelvio (Stelvio Pass)
    2) Nürburgring Nordschleife (55 miles SW of Cologne)
    3) "Route des Vins from Molsheim-Colmar-Freiburg-Offenburg-Strasbourg
    4) Apennines (Close to Modena)
    5) Ireland around the Dingle peninsula (Heck, almost anywhere in Ireland not in Dublin or Galway)
    6) Cap de Creus in Catalonia (Spain). Close to the French border, bordering the Mediterranean (in general, the overall Costa Brava is wonderful ... remember the Rally Costa Brava in the World Championship for Rallyes), and a much better climate than in France.
    7) The romantic road in Germany from Frankfurt to Munich.
    8) France Route Napoleon from Grasse to Dignes Les Bains.
    9) St. Moritz, Switzerland to Lake Como, Italy (45-60 minutes)
    10) Forli, Italy to Florence, Italy on "SS67"
    11) Sicily, Italy - the old Targa Florio route: Cerda - Caltavuturo - Collesano - Campofelice di Roccella - Cerda
    12) France, Mont Ventoux: Bédoin - Sainte Colombe - Le Chalet Reynard - Mont Ventoux (1912m) - Malaucène – Bédoin
    13) Italy the arrival by the highway to Genova (from Milano / Alessandria)
    14) France "La Gineste" between Marseilles & Cassis, all the way an incredible view on the sea
    15) Spain, the Sierra Nevada mountain road: Granada – Pico Veleta (3,392m)
    16) Andorra: Pas de la Casa - Port d'Envalira (2,408m), Soldeu, Encamp, and Andorra La Veilla
    17) Romania, Transfagarasan (highest road in Romania, 2,034 m; was featured on Top Gear)
    18) Scotland - Dukes pass from Aberfoyle to Calendar and most other country roads in Scotland
    19) Monaco - Col de Turini (also featured on Top Gear)
    20) Italy, Sestri Levante to Portofino
    21) Spain: Marbella - Ronda (great road and not so far (about 180 km) from Nº 15)

    -- USA --

    California:

    1) Death Valley National Park
    2) Highway 1 (California Coast)
    3) Angeles Crest Highway (California Route 2)
    La Canada Flintridge to Wrightwood
    4) Glendora Mtn Road
    5) PCH
    6) Mullhuland Drive
    7) Mulholland Hwy
    8) Hwy 74 Temascal Canyon
    9) Angeles Crest HWY 2
    10) Hwy 280 north of San Jose
    11) Rim Of The World Scenic Byway
    12) hwy 46 (James Deans last ride)
    13) Interstate 5 near Bakersfiled with no traffic (165 mph)
    14) Hwy 101 LA to SF
    15) 110 freeway PAsadena to LA (also first LA freeway) early sunday morngin is best.
    16) Portuguese Bend (runs through the Palos Verdes penninsula)
    17) Saddle Peak Road -> Piuma Road (From Malibu Canyon to Topanga - Views of all LA)
    18) Tuna Canyon Road (from PCH in Malibu to Piuma Road - also views of LA)
    19) Trinity Hwy SR 299 Arcata to Redding CA
    20) Avenue of the Giants, 101 Scenic detour in the Humboldt County Redwoods
    21) Southern Cal, Ortega Highway
    22) Northern Cal, Highway 25
    23) Norther Cal, Woodside Road AKA Highway 84
    24) then onto Highway 35 along the mountain tops


    OTHER USA :

    1) Deals Gap (US 129, NC and TN)
    2) Million Dollar Highway (US 550 between Durango and Ouray, CO)
    3) Death Valley National Park
    3) Great Smokey Mountains (Highway 129), Tennessee
    4) Blue Ridge Parkway
    5) Glenn Highway/SR1 south of Anchorage
    6) Connecticut Rt 7 from Kent to Lime Rock
    7) New York Rt 22 from Rt 684 to Millerton
    8) Vermont Rt 100 from Stowe to Londonderry
    9) New York Rt 44 from Amenia to Millbrook
    10) New York Old Montauk Highway
    11) Connecticut/New York North St Greenwich into Bedford
    12) Utah HWY 12 Between Rubys Inn and Loa/Torrey
    13) N. Carolina dragons tail = cant believe you guys forgot this one!! AMAZING road
    14) US 101 on the Oregon Coast
    15) 89A from Sedona, AZ to Flagstaff
    16) 191 (formerly 666) from Alpine, AZ to Morenci, AZ
    17) Raphine through Goshen Pass in VA (Take the Raphine exit off of I-81606. Keep on 606 through Raphine, turn left on 252 (Brownsburg Turnpike), then right on 39 (Maury River Rd.) and drive through Goshen Pass along the whitewater of the Maury River. It is the route I take to the Homestead.)

    -- Canada -- **updated 2010/01/05**

    1) old #1 highway between Lake Louise and Banff very tight and scenic
    2) New #1 highway between Takaka Falls and Golden B.C
    3) Forks of The Credit Road, hairpin turn
    4) Sea to Sky Hwy between Vancouver and Whistler (a scenic section of Highway 99 starting just north of Horseshoe Bay with mountains on one side and ocean on the other) undergoing major improvements at the moment for the 2010 Winter Olympics. Lots of radar traps
    5) Hwy99 from Whistler to Lillooet BC: known as Duffy Lake Road.
    6) Kootenay Lake road from Crawford Bay to Creston BC
    7) The Icefields Parkway stretches 230km (142 miles) between Lake Louise and Jasper - easy access to the "most spectacular mountain landscape on Earth" - right through the Canadian Rockies. The drive has its own website - Icefields Parkway


    -- Africa --

    1) Atlas Mountains (North - South)
    2) Chapman's Peak Drive, Cape Town Southern Peninsula, South Africa

    -- Asia --

    1) The Silk road
    2) Kathmandu to Lahsa
    3) Rt 469 Japan east side of Mt Fuji. Other side of Mt Fuji drive only in the daytime.
    Gotemba to Inako.
    4) Rt 1 Japan : Miyaho****a to Shimizu - the lake on the way there is just something very special.
    5) Rt 362 Japan : Shizuoka too Lake Hamana.

    Asia danger :
    South Korea DMZ rd near north korea Rt78 Yeoncheon to Paju.
    Afghanistan: Quandhar,Kabul,Baghlan,andkhvoy,Rowzeh back to Quandahar. you get bullet holes or be shot at.


    -- Australia --

    1) Great Ocean Road, Victoria
    2) Black Spur, Victoria
    3) Anywhere in rural Tasmania
     
  24. intrepidcva11

    intrepidcva11 F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 12, 2009
    3,215
    Saratoga Springs NY
    Full Name:
    Seth
    Yo! Yahoo, er, I mean Wahoo! You've omitted these two from a slightly later post:

    15) NY- Tiorati brook road, route 106, arden valley road, parts of 7 lakes drive (bear mountain and harriman state park)
    16) NY- Storm King mountain highway

    I've taken the liberty of inserting them and renumbering above in the shaded quote section. Anyone wishing to add might consider quoting my post, adding an "Other USA" to the above and editing appropriately. I know both of these additions and tghey are worthwhile
     

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