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Best ferrari for the NON-DIYer ?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by PerryJ, Jun 29, 2006.

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  1. PerryJ

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    Ok I have zero mechanical skills so I have to take my car to the mechanic for everything shy of oild changes. (I know I should learn more but frankly I don't have the time at the moment, (especially since we have a little one coming)
    plus I this time want to get a car I can just drive and not have to worry about it being "broken".
    So that all being said this go around I'm trying to decide between three cars, 348ts, TR, possibly a 355B. budget 50-70K.

    I sold the 308 because I wanted more torque and less maint headaches, (never had anything major but with 25 year old car it was always some little something).
    so not interested in a 328.

    Thoughts ??
     
  2. Owens84QV

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    Unless you have a deeper wallet and if the thought of each trip to the service center costing $1000-2000 doesn't bother you, I'd say 348 or 355.

    The best Ferrari for a non-DIYer is a 308/328. All others are subject to pretty pricy repairs if needed.
     
  3. dasMafia

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    I was going to say 328....
     
  4. BOBAER

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    A new 430 under warranty.
     
  5. ProCoach

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    I was going to say 328. These cars are the ones I see least between services...
     
  6. PerryJ

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    I don't want to a 328 (every decent one I have found is running 48-58K, that's nice 348 money.
    I love them, but I want something more "modern" I quess would be the best way to say it.

    It's kinda like this,
    The 355 is most expensive up front, but outside of major service (I would hope) it to be the most "reliable"
    the TR has the torque and IMHO has the best looks, but I guess it to be the most lest "reliable" by reliable I mean to need the most TLC, and fixing of minor things.
    the 348 is the cheapest and probably pretty reliable, but the styling is not my favorite.

    So when I add up all the advantages and disavantages it seems a toss up, unless the 355 is alot more "reliable" than I imagine.
     
  7. RossoCorsaItaly

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    If you think a F355 is going to be reliable, you're going to be very dissapointed.

    F355's:

    Exhaust Manifolds
    Catalytic Converters
    Valve Guides
    F1 Pump (applicable to F1 models only)
    Bubbling Interior

    That's just the surface, really the F355 is the most amazing looking Ferrari and the nicest sounding Ferrari in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, they're not super unreliable but they do have their fair share of common problems, and unlike other models, their problems seem to be some of the most expensive.

    Look into a 360, you'll pay more up front but you can enjoy your car daily with minimal problems.
     
  8. PerryJ

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    Those are the exact thing that sacre me on the 355's plus I have had two dealers tell me stay away from them.

    since I need to hold this car for 2-3 years, (since mini-me is coming)
    I'm know I'll take a BIG hit with a 360 over the next 3 years.

    plus they are just outta of my reach. if they were already sub-100K it would be different.

    BUT that being said, that is my model (360) of choice and hope to move that way next, just need to save a few more fun tickets. ;)
     
  9. dasMafia

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    you find me a "nice" black 348tb for 48K and I'll kiss you.......
     
  10. RossoCorsaItaly

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    360's can be found for $110-120k. I can't disclose how much was paid for ours but to get a very nice conditioned 360 with low miles and all service records, $110-120k is within reach for a 99.

    Either way good luck with your decision and hope everything works out.
     
  11. Bullfighter

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    I'm also a non-DIYer.

    There's a reason 328 prices are passing 348 prices...

    Regarding the TR, I like 'em, and the torque is appealing, but the servicing costs scare the cr@p out of me. I don't think you're going to get through a major for <$6K, assuming the car is healthy and happy, and I don't want to ask what a double-plate clutch runs (on the pre-512 TR cars).

    Is a Maserati Spyder out of the question? The earlier ones have fallen to higher-end 328 price levels. It's a Ferrari underneath, 400bhp (?), new enough that you won't have to deal with the usual old-car electrical issues, and you can probably get one with a warranty or extended warranty. It has nowhere near the impact of a 328 or TR, but if you want an exotic you can just stick a key in and go, you might consider it.

    I admit I really like them, even if they're a bit conservative in the styling department.
     
  12. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Great suggestion, I had a 2002 Maserati Spyder for 9 months, absolutely no problems with it, one of the greatest cars ever produced in my opinion.
     
  13. BOBAER

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    I have had two 355 both were 1995, I still have one and I have not had any material problems with them what so ever.

    I also personally think they are one of the best looking F cars and one of the most fun to drive.

    Buy a 355, I don't think you will regret it.
     
  14. sparta49

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    The 348. I had very few problems between services with mine.(alternator and a/c drier) Just do your homework and make sure it was maintained with no deferred service.
     
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    buy a Porsche..................
     
  16. PerryJ

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    I didn't say 48k I said "48-58K", I know 348's are running 55-60K for a nice tb/ts, I have been watching them for about 6 months.

    No Maser, I NEED another "red" car, if I was buying performance and price I'd buy a Z06, but I think with my heart, not my head.

    I have had porsches (2) and a vette, but from now on it's gotta have a Cavallino on it :)
     
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    agreed
     
  18. PerryJ

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    #18 PerryJ, Jun 29, 2006
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    My "wife" loves the maser, which means.........
    It's not "sport car-ish" enough.

    It's not that I want just a "sports car" I want another ferrari, those who get it, know what I'm talking about. I enjoy them as a "hobby", not just a car. I like the shows, the meets and such, just as much as the car itself. I don't golf, fish, gamble or watch sports. So ferraris are my past time. :)


    But how to pick just ONE of these.......???

    They are all three, BELLA !!
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  19. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Very "sport car-ish". It's not a Ferrari but when it's composed of mainly Ferrari parts there's not much difference between the two. Try to get a test drive scheduled with your local dealer. I'm not trying to steer you one way or the other but for the price range you can get a Maserati with a warranty that you can put 10,000+ miles a year on comfortably. You may or may not lik ethe car, but only one way to find out.
     
  20. Owens84QV

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    This may be a stupid question, but do the Masers require the same 5/yr major services and such that our Ferraris require? I know the answer is probably "yes", I just wanted to hear it from someone that is more knowledgable with these cars...
     
  21. PerryJ

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    I have already looked at them, (FOA) that's where my wife fell in love with them , I however didn't, I had rather have a vette or p-car for the same money.
     
  22. PerryJ

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    from Ron Tonkin's site. "your first scheduled maintenance (at approximately 6,000 miles), the service intervals jump to 1 year/12,500 miles. Since you have a timing chain rather than a belt, there is no need to worry about a major service for years to come."
     
  23. dasMafia

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    since it seems that in the f-car world "major service" is synonymous and interchangable with "Timing Belt"...

    even the scardiest-cat owner with a timing chain (assuming the car was driven at least monthly and stored appropriately when not) would not start thinking about a timing chain until 85K.

    One of my best friends has a BMW 535i with something like 225K miles on it... he is JUST NOW doing the timing chain... and that's a 1960's tech motor in a 3600-lb sled. (its also getting its third clutch).

    as long as ferrari didn't skimp on the parts and built the chain and guides to the same specs as the rest of their motors... 120-150K would be a reasonable time to change the timing chain.
     
  24. RossoCorsaItaly

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    It's not a stupid question at all. Maserati's are actually very easy to maintain. First service is at 6k miles, second is at 18k miles, 3rd at 32k miles, and 4th at 48k miles. The services are extremely simple. It's literally just fluid changes and checks. There is no tedious engine out belt service or anything to that extent. The average service will run you $800-1,500 and short of the clutch that wears out every 15-30k miles and the Cambiocorsa pump that costs $900 to replace and tends to fail every 22-25k miles, the car has no consistent problems.

    I plan on getting another one in the very near future just because for the money I spend, nothing comes close.
     
  25. dasMafia

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    has anyone broken a timing chain on one yet??
     

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