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Beware of User UTAH997

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by cfensty, Jan 27, 2019.

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  1. cfensty

    cfensty Formula Junior
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    Jan 1, 2008
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    Bought two items from him on FChat. Paid immediately over two weeks ago. One item that was described as being a “new and never used cover” showed up after two weeks but was obviously used bc of the round black tire marks on the inside. The other item never showed up and he never sent tracking info as promised. Has not responded to any emails or FChat messages since 1/13/19. Total deadbeat scumbag and probably stole the items in the first place. Hopefully this heads up will do other FChat members some good if he lists other items for sale.


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  2. 02360spider

    02360spider Formula 3
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    May 27, 2015
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    Hopefully he will reply on here and maybe its a miss understand

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  3. titus2669

    titus2669 Karting

    Oct 4, 2017
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    Titus
    He used to be a very active member on thre vette forums for many many years. I hope this gets resolved cause I have never heard him do anything like this before. Ill keep an eye on this and will send him a PM over on the other forums if needbe.
     
  4. cfensty

    cfensty Formula Junior
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    Jan 1, 2008
    978
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    please do because he wont respond to FChat PMs or emails. I even sent him a PayPal request for the portion of the funds sent toward the item he never sent to no avail. Between FChat PMs, emails and PayPal he certainly knows about it. Thanks for the help. Mods may want to look into as well since he has now committed fraud against a longtime member.
     
  5. titus2669

    titus2669 Karting

    Oct 4, 2017
    77
    Sacramento CA
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    Titus
    Last activity on corvetteforum was 1/18/19. I sent him a PM about this. He might be out of the country. Hope this helps. Keep us posted.
     
  6. flash32

    flash32 F1 Veteran

    Aug 22, 2008
    5,680
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    Dominick
    I had a success transaction in the early part of Jan .. he responded to every inquiry and all goods were delivered as stated. I did reach out around mid Jan on a simple question and have not heard back. This leads me to believe since it was a simple question and not really affecting the purchase he is either out of country or, hopefully not, sick

    I have faith in people and I really think there is an explanation for him being out of touch

    Sorry you are having this issue

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  7. Nospinzone

    Nospinzone F1 Veteran

    Jul 1, 2013
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    I find it amazing how many people have been scammed by members on this website.
     
  8. utah997

    utah997 Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2007
    399
    Utah
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    Doug
    Whoah. Easy there bud. Total deadbeat scum? Really dude? Stolen?

    Wow, that escalated quickly.

    First of all, I hadn’t used that cover. It came with the 430 when I purchased it. I guess I didn’t check the inside for tire marks (insert rolling eye emoji here)

    I gave you a helluva deal on it. If you don’t want it or are going to bad mouth me about me selling stolen goods, send it back and I’ll refund you.

    As for the case, and cover.. I left both with my assistant and gave shipping insctructions. I have been travelling and off the grid for a couple of weeks, and was unaware of this issue.

    I posted several items for sale and all buyers have been satisfied other than this issue.

    I’ll check out what happened when I get in the office on monday and either refund or reship.

    Been on here since ‘08 and had three F cars, been on Corvette forum since ‘04. Gooed reputation on both.

    I think this post was in bad form, but you do you...

    Doug
     
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  9. utah997

    utah997 Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2007
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    Ps... “long time member” I’ve been on just as long as you have. Not a n00b here
     
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  10. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ
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    Uh oh........ sounds like a reasonable excuse to me, but just maybe next time the assistant needs to be able to access the PMs just in case! Kudos Utah!
     
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  11. Schulz308

    Schulz308 Formula 3
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  12. utah997

    utah997 Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2007
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    Doug
    Right.. now who’s not responding.


    This public lynching over something so trivial seems a little much
     
  13. 308 milano

    308 milano F1 Veteran

    Jan 15, 2007
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    Now that this little misunderstanding is straightened out, bet you guys will be doing a lot of future transactions!
     
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  14. utah997

    utah997 Formula Junior

    Apr 24, 2007
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    Doug
    I bet not.

    Gotta say I’m pretty mellow. But not a big fan of being slandered on a public forum.

    I’m getting accused of being a thief, deadbeat scumbag.. and whatever else. So I respond, and I don’t even get the courtesy of an apology or a “thanks for letting me me know what happened”

    Pretty hard to get me fired up, but that did it.

    Tell ya what Craig. I’m going to refund you for the book. Send the cover back and I’ll refund that too. Deal?


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  15. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 8, 2005
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    IMO 2 weeks is absolutely not enough time to pass to go calling people out in public. Bad form on the original poster.
     
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  16. ylshih

    ylshih Shogun Assassin
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    Mar 21, 2004
    19,827
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    90+% of the time these things are disputes in miscommunications or dissimilar expectations and we simply don't have enough/any of the facts, communications, visual/physical access to the items, or both sides of the story so as to be able to "look into it".

    We allow these complaint or grievance threads or follow-on posts to the sales threads as the main mechanism to report buyer and seller feedback. Note that we've seen the complaints rebound on the buyer frequently in these situations.
     

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