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  1. El Wayne

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    Lol. I actually tried to buy this beast but was out-bid on eBay at the last minute.
     
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    I just noticed that it looks like the "Jerrari" is burning rubber from all four wheels in this pic!
    Gotta love that guy!
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  3. tritone

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    Yah....I tried that with both of my GW's; could never get it to work!
    I used to cruise by the house where the car lived in the late '90's; owners had many strange cars from the old collection; the engineless GW lived under a weathered tarp in the driveway.
     
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    Does it still have the V-12? I thought it had a V-8 in the last ad I saw for it.

     
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    No, it had the V-8 at the time, but I had access to a C4 motor for cheap and was considering marrying the two. Come to think of it, I'm probably lucky to have avoided that project.
     
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    Yes, this car now has a V8 in it and is owned by an FChatter in the midwest....
    (see also my comment above)

    Harrah built a second Waggy, I believe an '88, also with a V12 (possibly the same motor).
    It is displayed in the National Automotive Museum in Reno. Externally it is completely stock and original, no 'snout'. A much better solution, IMHO.
     
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    For those interested in Bill Harrah and some of the cars that made up his formidable collection I would recommend Dean Batchelor's 1984 book 'Harrah's Automobile Collection'.

    There is not huge Ferrari content with greater space dedicated to the more obscure vehicles such as the Pope-Hartford Roadster and the Graham-Paige All Weather Cabriolet.

    The book lists the 1,464 vehicles that were owned by Harrah at the time of his death in June 1978, five of which were Ferraris.

    Below are a couple of images from the book, including a picture of William Harrah with Enzo Ferrari when he visited the Maranello factory in 1959.

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    Very interesting, thanks for posting!

    Factory photo must have been taken in spring/summer of 1961 though, as 2111GT is in the background. Is that Superamerica 5115SA?
     
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    about 30 years ago I went out to the San Fernando valley once to a restoration shop, I think their
    real business was landing gear but they restored Ferraris and they had a vertical grille early Ferrari that they were going to restore that looked something liek the Agnelli car. They said it had hit a tree. I didn't see that one mentioned here.
     
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    I was amazed to see the "Jerrari" b/c I'd read of it, but always thought he'd simply popped a Ferrari v-12 into a 4WD Jeep body...I had NO idea he'd cut the nose off a Ferrari also....

    Maybe the one I'd hard of was actually the 2nd. Amazing guy. Must have been a lot of fun!
     
  12. tritone

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    Batchelor was prolific, documenting lots of the (American) automotive scene, from exotics and classics to hot rods to Bonneville record setters. He wrote at least one other Ferrari-specific book, the "Illustrated Ferrari Buyers Guide", published by Motorbooks.

    That is the one that sealed my own fate. Chapter 13, The 330 GTC & GTS, 1966 to 1970
     
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    There was a second Jerrari that is just like you say: A V12 in a regular Grand Wagoneer body with a lengthened front end.

    I saw it at the National Auto Museum in Reno several years ago and have some photos, which I will post when I can find them. They were pre-digital era and I don't remember if I have scanned them yet, but I will check on that computer.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, must get my hands on that one.


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    I got to see the collection about 1971-2 when we went through Reno. At the time he had a hanger full of cars, but not so many exotics (yet). He had started collecting Fords and Packards, and had on display a Ford of every year from the Model T up to the early 50's, if I remember right.
    I saw him once at Hershey driving into the stadium, and wondered how he fit into a Morgan Trike.
    I have always wondered if he ever sat in my 330. It was delivered to his dealership.

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    Did Garry Roberts have this car? Reason for asking is I came this close to buying it from him about ten years ago. Too bad about the wreck.

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    I went through a few times the first in 1976, and you had access to his restoration shop where you could watch the mechanics work on his cars and on restorations. I still remember one of his Bugatti Royale's being washed and detailed..and then driven back into the museum and parked..i was impressed with its presence and how quiet it was..it was a large car
     
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    I know this is a very old post...but thought I give it a try (as I am putting together a Ferrari 365 Gt 2+2 registry). Any chance you have any pictures of what Harrah's car looked like when you purchased the interior?
    Thank you.
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  19. Kitbash

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    I grew up in Reno and knew the collection well. That second Jerrari actually had a Boxer-12 in it, not a V. And the front end was all Jeep.
     
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    Thank you for the follow-up. I was trying to ascertain the VIN number of the body so that I could enter that information on the Registry. Do you know who may know that information? Also, may you know what happened to the chassis?
     
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    Thank you. I believe that is the "2nd" Jerrari, which was build from from the mechanics of a crashed 365 GTC/4. Given that I am trying to find all 365 GT 2+2, I was trying to determine the VIN number of the one (1st Jerrari) that was modified.

    Sincerely,

    Stefano
     
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    I have a friend who is a former employee of MCM, I will ask.
     
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    I have a friend who is a former employee of MCM, I will ask.
     
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