Binotto's Technical Leadership.

Ferrari developed the split-turbo design of Mercedes but ditched the idea and are still holding on to their original design as they[Ferrari] see it "bears fruit."

They're the only team and engine supplier to not adopt the split-turbo design....currently.

So after 9 years of this turbo-hybrid era formula, Ferrari PU's are the least reliable engines.....across the board.

Honda has made progress in their engines after the redesign in 2017 and followed the split-turbo design of Mercedes.

Ferrari has instituted a path of regression with their engines.

There's ALOT to fix.....STILL....at Ferrari F1.

How many TP's in this turbo-hybrid era for Ferrari?...4

Mercedes still has Toto and RedBull still have Horner.

 

That tells us all we need to know, IMO.

Binotto has been in post for 3 years which is generally the shelf life of a principal at the Scuderia, with race exceptions (Todt 14 years, Domenicali 6), with many doing only 2 years and some only one! So far 22 team principals since 1950 !

 

All of that notwithstanding, sending him back to the technical office, as some have suggested, would be a mistake from a management standpoint. It would be perceived as a demotion regardless of the PR flak. I’ve seen things like that happen many times in business and it rarely works out. Of the four possible options….leave in place, promote, demote, dismiss…a demotion is the usually least satisfactory. Well there’s a fifth, actually, and the absolute worst: title sharing.

 

Forghieri was effectively demoted in 1972 when the "Spazzaneve" did not do what was expected, and others designed the 312 B3 for 1973. When it proved to be hopeless, Forghieri was reinstated and eventually turned the 312 B3 into a winner, proving that some of the principles employed in the "Spazzaneve" had been correct after all.

 

Ferrari F1 has lost some key players......only to work for Mercedes F1 or other car manufacturers whom have become successful in their future endeavors.

It seems Ferrari F1 stifles the progression of its engineering along with its drivers.

 

He was the exception, in many ways.

 

But hey........he's Italian!

 

Oh, I thought he was Swiss.

Born and bred in Lausanne (French-speaking region), that looks very Swiss to me.

 

The French think that Swiss - French ( Suisse Romande ) are farmers and idiots... its kind of how New Yorkers think of people from the Southeast... Hey ya'll....

 

And New Jersey!

 

Nah. Nobody thinks of farming in New Jersey

 

And for all the reasons you listed, I don’t understand people saying he’ll take his knowledge or capabilities to other teams.

His management skills have been opened to be lacking and as for his technical skills, he’s been out of the detailed design of engines for years and as TD he never really was involved in chassis and aero design so what does that leave?

 

He's Swiss-born Italian and his parents were Italian.

 

Let's hope that by Monday Binotto's replacement is named and reshaping the team and the 2023 car goes forward quickly.

 

Replacement is due to be anouced only first january. Possibly because it's Vasseur and he's got a contract t'ill the end of then year.

 

Binotto has left the PU in good shape it appears. I think Binotto being burned at the stake is not necessary!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferraris-2023-f1-engine-is-the-bomb-says-steiner/10408041/


Ferrari’s 2023 F1 engine is ‘the bomb’, says Steiner
Haas team principal Gunther Steiner has hinted that engine partner Ferrari has made major progress with its 2023 Formula 1 power unit, which he has cheekily praised as ‘the bomb.’


By: Jonathan Noble
Co-author: Franco Nugnes , Featured writer
Dec 5, 2022, 2:51 PM
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Ferrari’s 2022 engine was a good step forward this year, with outgoing boss Mattia Binotto claiming that the Maranello squad had made the biggest progress season to season that he had ever known.

"On the power unit, we set big numbers in terms of objectives,” he said over the summer.

“And what I've seen that we have been capable of developing during last season for 2022 on the power unit, in more than 25 years in Maranello, I never saw that.”

However, as the Italian manufacturer pushed hard on performance with F1’s engine freeze locking in development, it did suffer some reliability problems.

Binotto subsequently revealed at the end of the year that the team had had to wind down its power over the second half of the campaign to ensure it did not hit repeat trouble.

But, as revealed by Autosport, Ferrari was able to go more aggressive for the season finale in Abu Dhabi after getting to the bottom of its earlier issues.

That has set the squad up for maximum performance from its engine in 2023, which could boost the title hopes of Charles Leclerc and Carlos Sainz as well as the form of its customer teams.

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Steiner, appearing at the Lorenzo Bandini Trophy Awards ceremony in Faenza at the weekend where driver Kevin Magnussen collected the accolade, has offered clues about optimism from within Ferrari.

“On Thursday I met Mattia Binotto and he told me that next season's engine will be the bomb,” he said.

“In Emilia Romagna, there is a lot of support for Ferrari. And if it [the engine] is competitive, it will be positive for us too.”

Steiner added he was encouraged by the progress that Haas made in 2022, which included a shock pole position for Kevin Magnussen at the Brazilian Grand Prix, but said the team’s targets had not been met yet.

"We've had two difficult years with the pandemic,” he said. “The championship that just ended went well, but it could also have gone better.

“We consider it a year of growth: Magnussen gave us a pole position that wasn't in the plans and in 2023 we want to grow further. The goal is to make another step forward in the standings, to always fight for points and one day get on the podium".

Speaking just down the road from rival AlphaTauri, which Haas edged in the constructors’ championship this year, Steiner said that the efforts of parts supplier Dallara, and input from technical director Simone Resta, left him confident about prospects for 2023.

“You'll see next year we will have a single-seater that will represent a step forward,” he said. “We hope to beat AlphaTauri again.”

 

I am not so sure using the term "the bomb" to describe an engine that has to last 5 races is "wise".

 

Well the top 3 routinely bring new PU's into the useage and does it need to last 5 ideally. Possibly but they are using more than 3 each year.

 

I meant that it was poor form to describe an engine as a bomb.

Remember the old days when an engine might not even last a practice session.
Those were actual bombs.
And it is poor form to use a term that accurately describe those engines in the past as the antithesis of modern engines (which don't go boom).

Modern terminology................sheesh.........

 

I don't think "bomb" is necessarily a good name for any engine.

 

I don't care for talk about how good an engine is going to be. Seeing is believing.

Very dangerous to claim your engine is great. Better back up your claim with results. We saw that with renault all too often. Best was non-renault drivers laughing out loud at Renault claim of reaching 1000hp, made even funnier with those same engines blowing on the same spot the same lap...

 

Like the old saying in drag racing.... You dont race the dyno.