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Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by VetroresinaNL, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Bluebottle

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    A bit of both, maybe: tragic that it has been allowed to get into this state, but if someone is now going to out it right, that would be worth celebrating.
     
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    Nobody is "celebrating" the condition of the car or how it got that way and we can't roll back history, so it is what it is. The part to be celebrating is the fact that it has been found, can and will be restored ;)
     
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    Excuse me... Putting it in the Beverly Hills Ferrari showroom as is isn't "celebrating" it?
     
  4. TheMayor

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    WRONG.

    Leaving the car that way and showing it off isn't helping get someone to try to restore it. It's an effort to get MORE money out of it by leaving it that way forever.
     
  5. Dave rocks

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    I already said - the "celebration" is the finding....

    I've got news for you - car dealers don't restore cars - they sell cars. Some of them barley wash them ;)
     
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    I don't think any of have any of us have a clear understanding what is happening with this car, what the timeline has been, the context of the photos, and what the future plans are, so debating what is "appropriate" and analyzing motives is rather pointless. If somebody can provide a timeline, current status, and future plans, then we will all have a basis for voicing a meaningful opinion. Without that, we are all extrapolating off of thin air. (IMO)

    I've received cars back from dealer service looking worse than that :)
     
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    Sorry I misunderstood. I think marketing this car in a dealer showroom in its current condition is "fishing" for someone to overpay for it as "a barn find" instead of what it really is -- and abused car desperately in need of restoration to get it back on the road.

    In my poorly worded way of getting my point across, what I'm trying to say is instead of saying

    "Wow look awesome it is that we found a car like this."

    we should be saying;

    "Wow what a tragedy for someone to do this to this car. I hope someone gets it cheap enough to be able to restore it".
     
  8. Dave rocks

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    Barn finds are often auctioned at some of the most premier auction houses - no different. The market is what someone is willing to pay. Hey - I get it - there is no chance (no matter how much money I have) would I ever buy a $50,000 or $5,000,000 dollar painting - especially one that looks like a 6 year old did ;)
     
  9. peterp

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    Yeah, but take that same painting, stick in a barn for 40 years, and then you won't be able to live without it.
     
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    If it is THE alloy bodied car, I can understand all the fuss. Still don't like seeing Ferraris in that condition, unless it's a before and after restoration pair.
     
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    Agreed, let this team give it a good rub down.You could even sell tickets t0 interested buyers wishing to oversee it o_O
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    those chicks on a ferrari sitting? a shame ! ! !
    and on the daytona the roof then is damaged :(
     
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    You, from what country?
     
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    when you would have a look at my profile then you would not ask this question
    also it would be good for you to read right. beside my nick name on the top of my posting there it is standing also. because in stead of you I filled out my profile
     
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    Dave Freiburger and Mike finnegan would have that puppy running in no time.:D
     
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    Like it would have taken so much effort to roll up the windows.
     
  21. davemqv

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    There are 13 GTB/4's on Hemmings alone...this month...half of which weren't there last month! Not any kind of rare unless your point of comparison is a '95 Ford Taurus.
     
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    Ok. That explains the value :rolleyes:
     
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    Dave, forgive me if I've been misreading your posts, but you've repeatedly said throughout this thread that a big factor in the (IMO inflated) value of this car is it's rarity. I'm saying, for what it is, it's not rare AT ALL. It's an old Daytona that was modified (bye bye originality), that has been left to rot for decades (bye bye everything else). In fact the only thing rare about it is how awfully it's been treated. If you want a Daytona you can pick from dozens of cars tonight. That's not rare in Ferrari-land, as you know.

    The car certainly has value, but I (and others it would seem) are suggesting that the value is probably about 1/2 of what any Daytona in good condition should bring.

    If the car had some special significance or provenance, or some actual rarity relative to what it is...maybe a premium would be justified. But this is nothing more than a beat up, unoriginal Daytona that needs to have several hundred thousand bucks put into it to make it nice again. Sounds like a cool project, and I can imagine the possibilities, but as-is the car should sell at a discount, not premium.
     
  24. Dave rocks

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    Dave - I know next to nothing about vintage or semi vintage Ferrari's. What I do know is the market is set by buyers. If it commands a price, then it has value. If not, it doesn't.
     
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    Am I confused...? Or, is this the one of one alloy street Daytona from Japan? If so, the implication the whole time has been the value due to the rarity. Or...am I thinking of a different car?
     

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